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**Chops** · 07-14-2007, 09:17 PM

It's kind of an underwhelming move, but a move that had to be made with the departure of P.J. Brown. I would have liked to get Scola if at all possible. Oh well. I think Paxson upgraded the front court this off-season by adding Smith and Noah, but any real advancement is going to depend on the progression of Tyrus Thomas. That could still be a couple season away.

**JNice** · 07-14-2007, 09:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Chops

It's kind of an underwhelming move, but a move that had to be made with the departure of P.J. Brown. I would have liked to get Scola if at all possible. Oh well. I think Paxson upgraded the front court this off-season by adding Smith and Noah, but any real advancement is going to depend on the progression of Tyrus Thomas. That could still be a couple season away.

One thing we know is TT has really improved his passing. In the summer league he was looking like Magic Johnson out there.

**Chops** · 07-14-2007, 09:27 PM

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One thing we know is TT has really improved his passing. In the summer league he was looking like Magic Johnson out there.

All hyperbole aside, Tyrus did look dominant in summer league. He was clearly the best player on the floor, in each of the three games.

What does it mean? I don't know.

f22egl · 07-14-2007, 09:40 PM

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All hyperbole aside, Tyrus did look dominant in summer league. He was clearly the best player on the floor, in each of the three games.

What does it mean? Not much

Fixed.

**Chops** · 07-14-2007, 09:44 PM

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Fixed.

Well, that's not completely accurate. You're not wrong, per say, but I'm not just analyzing statistics.

I'm judging him by how he improved as a basketball player. That includes his dribbling, passing and shooting ability.

He showed really nice touch on his shot from out to 18 feet. If he can hit that more consistently, it's going to open up the offense tremendously.

Roscoe Sheed · 07-15-2007, 12:23 AM

correct me if i'm wrong because i haven't really concentrated on his play that much, but doesn't joe smith just basically stand there and shot set shots? I mean, I've never seen him post up and he doesn't go inside much at all. also, he is fairly weak for a PF

**Dre™** · 07-15-2007, 08:28 PM

This is Ben Wallace all over again. It looks like a good move, but in the end he's redundant.

BG7 · 07-15-2007, 08:54 PM

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This is Ben Wallace all over again. It looks like a good move, but in the end he's redundant.

He's not redundant, and this just shows how little you know about the NBA.

Ben Wallace = No offense. He has trouble finishing the easy stuff.

Aaron Gray = Post up player. Rookie, not quite ready for the in and out of the NBA night in night out. Spot minutes.

Joakim Noah = Inside players. Just really a finisher at this point. Dunks and easy lay ins.

Andres Nocioni = Small forward, who is out there as a four. Used to stretch the defense out. With Nocioni out there, someone usually gets open (usually Nocioni) because the low post player doesn't go out to the three point line to defend him. Three point shooter.

Tyrus Thomas = Finisher last year. This year it looks like he will be able to shoot a midrange jumpshot with some consistency, as well as penetrate after receiving the ball about 18-20 feet out. Has a baby hook out of a spin move.

So where is Joe Smith redundant on the Bulls? A big with a midrange jumpshot is a logical need for the team.

**Dre™** · 07-15-2007, 09:23 PM

different_13 · 07-16-2007, 03:23 AM

Kind of like Malik Allen or PJ Brown then..

But meh - if they weren't gonna get anyone else, it's a decent enough signing.
Lot of depth at the forward spots now - Tyrus, Smith, Nocioni, Noah, Deng, Khryapha, as well as Wallace, and possibly Malik Allen or another big. As well as Thabo who can play the 3, and Griffen.

Husstla · 07-16-2007, 03:56 AM

Starting Thomas would be a mistake in my opinion. The kid still has a lot to learn, and mature as a player and a person. Joe Smiths experience as a 12 year veteran would make him a better option to start him of TT, and Joe Smith gives the Bulls another scoring option.