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02-21-2008, 02:16 PM
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Re: Wally Z to the cavs
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This is probably a mostly harmless minor tweak. If the Cavs are counting on him to be a Korver-like difference-maker, feathers could end up ruffled though. I think Wally has more overall talent, but there's a basis for his rep for not fitting in well. But with luck, Cleveland is catching a mellower, more team-oriented version of Wally.
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I don't see how one can make the argument that Blue Steel has more talent than Korver. Blue Steel shoots. That's it. And I'm not even sure if he's as good a shooter as Korver is. On top of that, Korver is a very heady player who is an excellent passer, and defensively, while not strong and fast enough to be considered 'good,' he reliably stands in the right place, which is not something that Blue Steel can be counted on for.
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02-21-2008, 02:18 PM
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Re: Wally Z, Delonte West, Ben wallace, Joe smith to cavs
Nobody in this deal impresses me enough to make that much of a difference IMO. I just dont see how this is a clear upgrade for any team. Seems as if the Ferry made a move for the sake of making moves, and also that Chicago was desprate to dump Ben Wallace.
Yeah the Cavs got shooters, but seriously Wally is so one-dimensional, and Delonte is really not that much of an improvement over him either. Both are terrible on defense.
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02-21-2008, 02:19 PM
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Re: Wally Z, Delonte West, Ben wallace, Joe smith to cavs
And I cant see Varejao starting over Wallace.
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02-21-2008, 02:20 PM
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Re: Wally Z, Delonte West, Ben wallace, Joe smith to cavs
I think Wally & Delonte are being asked for too much. People don't understand how bad Wally is at anything but shooting. He's so slow now it's unbelievable. Delonte does give them a PG defender and another shooter though. Their perimeter defense is still suffering a gross amount.
It's no Mike Miller & Kyle Lowry, but it should help.
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02-21-2008, 02:23 PM
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Re: Wally Z, Delonte West, Ben wallace, Joe smith to cavs
West is also going to the Cavs? Ferry cleaned up shop today
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02-21-2008, 02:26 PM
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Re: Wally Z, Delonte West, Ben wallace, Joe smith to cavs
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West is also going to the Cavs? Ferry cleaned up shop today
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Unfortunately the toilet exploded as he was cleaning. And exploded right after Drew Gooden took a chili dump in it.
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02-21-2008, 02:29 PM
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Re: Wally Z, Delonte West, Ben wallace, Joe smith to cavs
The Cavs get better at the pg spot not so sure Wallace will work out for them.
I get a feeling Big Ben's gonna choke the **** out of Lebron.
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02-21-2008, 02:29 PM
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Re: Wally Z, Delonte West, Ben wallace, Joe smith to cavs
The Cavs didn't give up anyone though. That's the thing.
We got rid of all the guys who were holding our team back. I just don't see how we could possibly fail to benefit from this, even if it's not a gigantic leap.
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02-21-2008, 02:30 PM
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Re: Wally Z, Delonte West, Ben wallace, Joe smith to cavs
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The Cavs get better at the pg spot not so sure Wallace will work out for them.
I get a feeling Big Ben's gonna choke the **** out of Lebron.
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02-21-2008, 02:32 PM
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Wally Z, Delonte West, Ben wallace, Joe smith to cavs
