[liekomgj4ck]

Originally Posted by Brandname

Here, I'll feed the fire some more:



Maybe people haven't seen it enough, but people aren't talking about how ridiculous Lebron has been in the clutch this year. Both he and Kobe are obviously the two best in the league in these situations, but even then Lebron separates himself significantly from Kobe.

And don't forget, these numbers are normalized for minutes played. So Lebron's numbers aren't higher because he's in clutch situations more often.

He averages 6.3 points more on 1.3 more FGA, rebounds at a higher rate, assists at a higher rate, blocks over twice as many shots, and comes up with 7 times as many steals per 48 minutes. Kobe turns the ball over twice as often in the clutch. And they're essentially equal on the FT line, with a slight edge to Kobe.

There's a big gap between Kobe/Lebron and the rest of the league in these situations. But Lebron has even separated himself by a good margin over Kobe in the clutch this year.

It's also important to note I'm not basing my opinions off these stats. By watching games all around the league this year, I have seen that Lebron is the best in clutch situations. So this morning I went to see what the current stats are, and they indeed agree with my observations.

Finally you have ended the debate and proved Lebron is better...

Until the next time he misses a shot.

[SPMJ]

Hmmm...LeBron's currently waxing Kobe 86% to 12% on the MVP Poll at NBA.COM. 200000+ votes already in.

[Plastic Man]

^^Yep. SamTheMan67, Futur, Bradname, I know you like your boy, but hacking a poll to prove a point? Which one of you was it?

Here's a post off RealGM on the matter:
"It's obviously hacked.

The Poll just got 100,000 votes in less than an hour. In fact, it's generating 1,000 new votes per minute... on a Midnight (3 AM ET).

It's easy to hack NBA.com polls.

Unlike ESPN, all you have to do is "Turn-Off" your Cookies, and you can vote as many times as you want on NBA.com.

You can even download an online Automated Clicker to help you out. Feel free to PM me for links to one."

Funny stuff either way you spin it. The World has apparently finally came to a revelation and people outside of Ohio are starting to think that not only is he a better player but also the MVP this year.

[SPMJ]

Originally Posted by Plastic Man

^^Yep. SamTheMan67, Futur, Bradname, I know you like your boy, but hacking a poll to prove a point? Which one of you was it?

Here's a post off RealGM on the matter:
"It's obviously hacked.

The Poll just got 100,000 votes in less than an hour. In fact, it's generating 1,000 new votes per minute... on a Midnight (3 AM ET).

It's easy to hack NBA.com polls.

Unlike ESPN, all you have to do is "Turn-Off" your Cookies, and you can vote as many times as you want on NBA.com.

You can even download an online Automated Clicker to help you out. Feel free to PM me for links to one."

Funny stuff either way you spin it. The World has apparently finally came to a revelation and people outside of Ohio are starting to think that not only is he a better player but also the MVP this year.

Awwww. Kobe groupies don't have to be sore losers about this. 1000+ votes per minute is nothing new. I've seen ESPN polls get more than that and they don't even get as much traffic as NBA.COM does.

Besides, given the NBA's popularity in Europe and Asia, there's nothing remotely fishy abt that many votes coming in at that time.

[SamTheMan67]

Jesus I didn't know you kept the statistical average of votes per hour on the poll lmao. finally some real nba fans voting =)


pss. Just when I think AJ23 can't get owned any harder brandname gives him a new *******

[futuristxen]

Originally Posted by Plastic Man

^^Yep. SamTheMan67, Futur, Bradname, I know you like your boy, but hacking a poll to prove a point? Which one of you was it?

Here's a post off RealGM on the matter:
"It's obviously hacked.

The Poll just got 100,000 votes in less than an hour. In fact, it's generating 1,000 new votes per minute... on a Midnight (3 AM ET).

It's funny because my mom emailed me yesterday because she saw the ESPN poll and the only two states that Lebron won were Ohio and Rhode Island, and I live in Rhode Island, so she wanted to know if I was stuffing the ballots.

I actually very rarely vote in online polls.

[liekomgj4ck]

Originally Posted by futuristxen

It's funny because my mom emailed me yesterday because she saw the ESPN poll and the only two states that Lebron won were Ohio and Rhode Island, and I live in Rhode Island, so she wanted to know if I was stuffing the ballots.

I actually very rarely vote in online polls.

your mom emailed that to you? That's hilarious.

[SamTheMan67]

futur , If there was a woman in las vegas who liked LeBron as much as you no matter how unattractive some of her traits were I would still go on a date hahaha. If only you werent the only one

[Plastic Man]

Kobe groupie? Lol. Why don't you try something different for a change? I have other things in life to worry about than who gets how many votes on an internet site and I clearly stated from where the quote was. I just think that neither of the polls is worth getting your panties wet just yet. (btw, SPMJ, I'm from Europe and when the time is 0:00 ET I'm sound asleep as well as the majority of the continent... you should at least check up timezones before you post stuff. Not that it matters, I just thought I'd enlighten you).

Thinking that someone "rigged" the results is funny or maybe slightly paranoid/unsecured. Thinking that 75 vs 25 on ESPN or 15 vs 85 on nba.com is something that solidifies the opinion of the majority of basketball fans or makes LBJ > Kobe or vice versa a fact is idiotic.

For all the amount of hate you people have, you do post an awful lot in topics regarded to your so hated player. And to think I myself and many other Lakers fans give credit to James where it's due...

peace

p.s.: futuristxten... hahahha good one that makes the two of us. These polls are usually so badly positioned that I don't even notice 90% of them.