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Old 03-04-2008, 01:16 PM   #16 (permalink)
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You dont see too many 6'8 players averaging 8 rpg. Regardless of how he gets it, you can't just throw it out the window.
You don't ? Please look up rebounding stats. I'm sure there are plenty of guys who do. I mean Kobe himself is only 6'6" and averages 6 rebounds a game. My main point was that its not really an advantage for Lebron Just because the stat says 8 rebounds per game. More importantly by the time the season is over LeBron will be at 7 boards a game. Especially now that he has good interior big men in Smith, and Wallace to help on the boards. Or logically you would think that right ? Or maybe Bron cares more about getting stats then winning championships. Shrug...time will tell.
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Old 03-04-2008, 01:17 PM   #17 (permalink)
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Re: ESPN Poll: Who's the best Player Kobe or LeBron

It seems like Lebron is already beyond the point where everyone takes him for granted, he just makes it look too easy. I have no other explanation for it because he has definitely been the best player this season.
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Old 03-04-2008, 01:17 PM   #18 (permalink)
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Check out the overrated stats thread Rebounding is one of them. LeBron get's half his rebounds standing by the rim.
Yup. Most people do. lol

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Don't be fooled by stats. Watch the game more in depth. Look at whos really banging in the paint and fighting for rebounds.
Lebron raises his intensity on the boards in the clutch. That answers your question.

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LeBron just out jumps guys, or stands and grabs missed free throw rebounds half the game. He's not a Rodman by any stretch of the imagination.
Wait, he out jumps guys to get rebounds? And this is somehow....bad? You seem to be quite confused.

And you complete this silliness with a complete strawman argument about Dennis Rodman. LOL
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You don't ? Please look up rebounding stats. I'm sure there are plenty of guys who do. I mean Kobe himself is only 6'6" and averages 6 rebounds a game. My main point was that its not really an advantage for Lebron Just because the stat says 8 rebounds per game. More importantly by the time the season is over LeBron will be at 7 boards a game. Especially now that he has good interior big men in Smith, and Wallace to help on the boards. Or logically you would think that right ? Or maybe Bron cares more about getting stats then winning championships. Shrug...time will tell.
He does everything to get his team wins, if that means getting over 8 boards a game to keep them competitive then so be it. I am sure he wouldn't mind if his rebounding numbers took a dip as long as the team wins. Don't you agree?
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Old 03-04-2008, 01:18 PM   #20 (permalink)
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You don't ? Please look up rebounding stats. I'm sure there are plenty of guys who do. I mean Kobe himself is only 6'6" and averages 6 rebounds a game. My main point was that its not really an advantage for Lebron Just because the stat says 8 rebounds per game. More importantly by the time the season is over LeBron will be at 7 boards a game. Especially now that he has good interior big men in Smith, and Wallace to help on the boards. Or logically you would think that right ? Or maybe Bron cares more about getting stats then winning championships. Shrug...time will tell.
Lebron's always had good interior big men. They always are at the top of the league in rebounding.

Lebron's a large part of the reason why.
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He wasn't an option on the poll...it was between Kobe/LeBron.
I know.
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Lebron's always had good interior big men. They always are at the top of the league in rebounding.

Lebron's a large part of the reason why.
ilgauskus? gooden? varejao? james carried a pretty weak team to the finals. i don't really consider any of these guys as board monsters.
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i still think lebron is the better rebounder. he's just bigger and stronger than kobe. but better passer? if anything they're even. both rely a lot on drive and kick, which to me, aren't as impressive as hitting a guy going to the hole for an easy two. you know, the way assists used to be counted. lebron is young, and has plenty of time to improve his game. all the tools are there for him to be in the argument for top ten player when he is done. i know youngens hate hearing this, but he's still gotta pay his dues.
Honestly? Kobe isn't on Lebron's level when it comes to passing. Lebron's passing skills are what separates him from the rest of the explosive wing scorers in the league.

And I'm not even talking about assists per game or anything like that. I'm talking about vision. Lebron hasn't had many guys around him who can shoot very well most of his career, and a lot of his passes are ones that only Nash and Kidd could pull off. And frankly, a lot of his snap passes are too fast for either of them to pull off. (Of course, they obviously have a lot of passes in their arsenal that Lebron could likewise not pull off).

Kobe's no slouch when it comes to passing, but there is no evidence to suggest that they are even in terms of passing ability.
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