[SamTheMan67]

Originally Posted by Brandname

Yup. Most people do. lol



Lebron raises his intensity on the boards in the clutch. That answers your question.



Wait, he out jumps guys to get rebounds? And this is somehow....bad? You seem to be quite confused.

And you complete this silliness with a complete strawman argument about Dennis Rodman. LOL

btw

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[Diable]

There's actually very little in which Kobe is superior.He's not a better defender,he's not a better passer nor is he a better rebounder.That only leaves scoring and Kobe isn't scoring more,nor is he scoring much more efficiently despite playing with a much better offensive team.That doesn't leave much.If Kobe isn't a substantially better scorer then this is no contest.

At any rate Timmy is still the best player in the league exactly like he has been since he overtook Shaq five years ago.He's been the best defensive player over the course of his career and he's led four separate teams to titles.He still has a better PER than Kobe even though he's never been about numbers and everyone claims he's having a down year.The Spurs have the best record in the West despite having all sorts of injuries and all the naysayers predicting their demise.All without a lick of help from Chris Wallace

[DaRizzle]

Originally Posted by SamTheMan67

Lets see kobe take his team out of the first round without a prime shaq .

Kobe took a team in the WEST to the playoffs two years in a row with a starting lineup including Kwame Brown, Smush Parker, and Luke Walton. Get off his nuts

[kflo]

Originally Posted by SamTheMan67

Passing, rebounding, equal defense.

Lets see kobe take his team out of the first round without a prime shaq .

and what happens if he does? i mean, you acknowledge its a pretty real possibility this year, no?

[Bartholomew Hunt]

Originally Posted by DaRizzle

Kobe took a team in the WEST to the playoffs two years in a row with a starting lineup including Kwame Brown, Smush Parker, and Luke Walton. Get off his nuts

DaRizzle ftw.

[SamTheMan67]

Originally Posted by kflo

and what happens if he does? i mean, you acknowledge its a pretty real possibility this year, no?

I mean obv , but if they get a tough matchup like GSW and lose in the first round then what are Kobe supporters going to say? honestly what arguement would you have.. kobe has no help?? Please LeBron took a bunch of scrubs and roleplayers to the NBA finals. Kobe choked away a 3-1 lead to phoenix..

[SamTheMan67]

Originally Posted by DaRizzle

Kobe took a team in the WEST to the playoffs two years in a row with a starting lineup including Kwame Brown, Smush Parker, and Luke Walton. Get off his nuts

And Lebron took a backcourt of Hughes, Pavlovic, and Snow to the finals

[bballlife]

Lebron has been having the best individual season out of all players, but that doesn't necessarily mean he is the best player in the league. Teammates, injuries and other factors play a part regarding individual production. I still think Duncan and Kobe are the top two players in the NBA right now.

[DaRizzle]

Originally Posted by SamTheMan67

And Lebron took a backcourt of Hughes, Pavlovic, and Snow to the finals

In the jv league... I dare you to theorize how that team would have held up in the west. Furthermore Hughes, while hated, can do some thing on the bball court and Zeke is not a pushover in these times of not many dominant big men

[SamTheMan67]

Originally Posted by DaRizzle

In the jv league... I dare you to theorize how that team would have held up in the west. Furthermore Hughes, while hated, can do some thing on the bball court and Zeke is not a pushover in these times of not many dominant big men

Who the hell is zeke first off? Second off Hughes had some lame heel injury and played minimal minutes past the ec semi's. is it Lebrons fault he is in the east? He still beat the "best" team in the east and the team that beat your lakers dream team 3 year prior with the goldenboys last trip out of the first round.