[KDOS]

Originally Posted by Brandname

There is no universal truth when it comes to these things, just a bunch of opinions. They're pretty close, there's really no doubt about that.

The results are very different though, and it's interesting to see how the votes are split.

Nope. There is no universal truth when analyzing 1a and 1b, but repetitve remarks and statements from not just fans but GM's and players around the league affirming Kobe's status should at least give anyone an indication that he has a slight edge over Lebron.



People griped about Kobe's leadership,shot selection and his insistance to shoot rather than pass, but Kobe has made a major improvement on all three categories.



So really, what else do they want from him to completely seal the best player status?

[PauloCatarino]

Originally Posted by Brandname

Why aren't you up in arms about the missed goaltending violation by Haywood shortly before that?

LOL.

so it made it OK?

Lol

[Basel57]

Originally Posted by Brandname

Lebron didn't have a big game the other day. He had a pretty average game.

37,6,6 is still considered a big game, and he did it on 15/29 shooting. That, and the fact that he started to take over in the 4th quarter when Chicago had the lead.

[KillWill]

Originally Posted by KillWill;

screamin' a. smith's take: http://query-origin.andohs.net/8000A...io/sas/sas.mp3

- Kobe Bryant is MVP
- Stop talking about Chris Paul, waste of time, although loves his game. best pg in the league.
- Lebron love his game too. is a stud.
- During NBA Shootaround. Question was posed: if it was crunch time Kobe Bryant or Lebron james? whose hands?
- ans: w/o hesitation KB b/c better perimeter shooter and better free throw shooter, that's the reason
- LBJ 71% from free throw
- LBJ jump shot not as pure as KB
- 17 straight free throws after missing 10 out of first 13.
- KB shows up every night
- Committed to greatness, eyes of the world on him after trade request, even though he got booed 1st game of season continued to work. never cheats the fans.
- Kupchak got him Pau Gasol
- Lakers are 16-2 since Detroit
- 17-2 with Pau Gasol in the lineup
- Everyone saying Lakers, Lakers. SAS saying KB, KB.
- He's gonna be one of the greatest players ever.
- Top 5, Jerry West isn't going to be there.
- NBA should change logo from Jerry West to Jordan
- Jerry West won 1 NBA title, MJ had 6, KB has 3.
- Move to modern times
- Stop nonsense about who's best. This time, this year, it's Kobe.
- doesn't want MVP to be receiving the award in street clothes because they're out of the playoffs.
- Not sneezing at San Antonio. They won their last 9. Manu playing better than most guards in the league aside from Kobe.
- San Antonio and Lakers teams to beat.

also says:

[Brandname]

Originally Posted by KDOS

Nope. There is no universal truth when analyzing 1a and 1b, but repetitve remarks and statements from not just fans but GM's and players around the league affirming Kobe's status should at least give anyone an indication that he has a slight edge over Lebron.



People griped about Kobe's leadership,shot selection and his insistance to shoot rather than pass, but Kobe has made a major improvement on all three categories.



So really, what else do they want from him to completely seal the best player status?

It's not a question of whether Kobe improved. It's a question of whether he's better than Lebron.

And like I've said before, part of what influences players' opinions (as well as GMs and whatnot) is the honoring of establishment. Naturally they're going to lean towards taking the veteran just as a part of respecting the establishment, all else being equal.

Kobe has improved a lot of the areas of his game, but that doesn't necessarily make him the best. Lebron's having a historic season this year that's somewhat flown under the radar a little bit.

[Brandname]

Originally Posted by PauloCatarino

LOL.

so it made it OK?

Lol

No, it didn't make it ok at all. My point was that calls were missed down the stretch of a lot of those games, on both sides. Nobody was 'gifted' any game. He still had to hit a difficult shot because he was getting fouled after he traveled.

[Brandname]

Originally Posted by Basel57

37,6,6 is still considered a big game, and he did it on 15/29 shooting. That, and the fact that he started to take over in the 4th quarter when Chicago had the lead.

That's pretty average for him.

[KDOS]

Who's to say that the voters on ESPN don't discuss basketball on a daily basis, though? Just because they don't all post on this website, it doesn't mean they don't discuss basketball on a daily basis. .

Its funny for some people in this board to discredit ESPN polls and correlate casual voters with ESPN message board members.


FYI: You dont necessarily have to become a member to express your opinion via voting. Its safe to say that at least 90% of BBB posters may have even voted there as well. Its not an intricate process, you just click and view the results afterwards.

[Basel57]

Originally Posted by Brandname

That's pretty average for him.

That's fine, but it's still a big game.