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I bet bruce lee can kick jackie chan and jet li's butt
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03-06-2008, 11:55 PM
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Yr 4 Drob or Yr 4 D-Ho?
i was arguing with a friend of mine who was a big dwight howard fan. i said david rovinson was a much better center than howard at year 4, he said dwight is because dwight has superior athleticism than robsinon (his argument was howard won slam dunk)
both were # 1 overall picks. both were Roy. both are built the same. anyway to those who have experience robsinson play whose better?
yr 4 stats robsinson
Minutes 39.2
FG%.501 FT%.732
RPG 11.70
APG 3.7
SPG 1.55
BPG 3.22
PPG 23.4
Yr 4 D-Ho
Minutes 38.5
FG% .604 FT% .594
RPG 14.5
APG 1.3
SPG 1.0
BPG 2.3
PPG 21.6
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03-07-2008, 12:04 AM
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Re: Yr 4 Drob or Yr 4 D-Ho?
Bruce Lee, the toughest man to ever live. If he were alive today, the UFC would be shut down because everyone who got in a match with Bruce would leave in a body bag.
If that werent an option, I would have picked the Admiral. Lets see where Dwight goes, but Robinson was a ****ing legend.
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03-07-2008, 03:52 AM
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Re: Yr 4 Drob or Yr 4 D-Ho?
You've got to remember that because of his navy commitments, D-Rob entered the draft relatively late. He was 23 when he got drafted. Dwight was drafted at 18 years old. Therefore in his 4th year, D-Rob was already 27, which is the like among the prime years for most NBA players. Dwight is still only 22 in his 4th year. 5 year age gap, that's a huge difference. At 22, D-Rob wasn't even in the league yet.
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03-07-2008, 06:06 AM
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Re: Yr 4 Drob or Yr 4 D-Ho?
Two things that jump out at you from the stats are Assists and Freethrow%.
Robinson clearly has Dwight beat on those - he was a much better all-around offensive player, whereas Dwight is still scoring mostly under the shadow of the basket. I'm not saying that's a bad thing, but being able to step out and hit a jumper is always good, as is having the court vision to rack up over 3 assists per game (especially when your point guard is getting less than 6 and when you're surrounded by shooters..)
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03-07-2008, 06:31 AM
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Re: Yr 4 Drob or Yr 4 D-Ho?
Easily Robinson. He was much more polished at 4 years because of his age. His stats show that. Dwight only has the edge in rebounding.
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03-07-2008, 07:40 AM
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Re: Yr 4 Drob or Yr 4 D-Ho?
Robinson was more talented and fundamentally sound but howards brute strength is an advantage. I'd take howard still because the only reason that D-Rob was more polished is because in year 4, he was 4 years older than howard because of his stint in college. So I'll take howard
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03-07-2008, 02:26 PM
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Re: Yr 4 Drob or Yr 4 D-Ho?
Although David Robinson was a 7 Footer, he also had Lamar Odom type agility....
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03-07-2008, 02:34 PM
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Re: Yr 4 Drob or Yr 4 D-Ho?
Robinson was by far more skilled, and just a flat out better player. I'd still take Howard though at year 4. He's a beast while Robinson was soft as Charmin his whole career. Not because I think Howard is a better player, but because I see more potential and your big man SHOULD be a beast.
It's almost like comparing Shaq and Robinson at year 4. Robinson had more skill and was more complete, but Shaq was a monster and I'd take him 10 times out of 10 over DROB.
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03-07-2008, 03:02 PM
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Re: Yr 4 Drob or Yr 4 D-Ho?
I like Howard,
But the Admiral is so much better.
And also the comment with Shaq, well Shaq just over powered D Rob in their matchups, Robinson was very fit and ripped, but Shaq had the mass and over all size.
Looking at overall skills, talent, abilities etc.. Robinson is better than Shaq, but with Shaq's skill set and size, it was effective too and it caught the league by storm , while the golden era of centers declined... (Lakers run)
Dare I say... if Shaq and Robinson swapped places, like Robinson's prime entered as Shaq passed his.... The Lakers will have 6-7 championship rings... heck, as a crippled center for the Spurs, he was the league's best big man defender... with a crooked back that is...
Howard is good and will get better but apart from Rebounding, I dont see him surpassing Robinson in any other aspects of the game... in fact Robinson is just much much better.... Sorry Dwight fans... but Robinson was that damn good.
Hakeem owned him though :-)
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03-07-2008, 06:10 PM
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Re: Yr 4 Drob or Yr 4 D-Ho?
Robinson. He was in his prime by his 4th year because of his age.
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03-07-2008, 06:19 PM
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Re: Yr 4 Drob or Yr 4 D-Ho?
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I like Howard,
But the Admiral is so much better.
And also the comment with Shaq, well Shaq just over powered D Rob in their matchups, Robinson was very fit and ripped, but Shaq had the mass and over all size.
Looking at overall skills, talent, abilities etc.. Robinson is better than Shaq, but with Shaq's skill set and size, it was effective too and it caught the league by storm , while the golden era of centers declined... (Lakers run)
Dare I say... if Shaq and Robinson swapped places, like Robinson's prime entered as Shaq passed his.... The Lakers will have 6-7 championship rings... heck, as a crippled center for the Spurs, he was the league's best big man defender... with a crooked back that is...
Howard is good and will get better but apart from Rebounding, I dont see him surpassing Robinson in any other aspects of the game... in fact Robinson is just much much better.... Sorry Dwight fans... but Robinson was that damn good.
Hakeem owned him though :-)
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I don't necessarily disagree with any of this, but people still need to remember what was already stated once in this thread. Robinson's rookie season he was a 23 year old, while Dwight has still yet to hit that age. If you compare Robinson's rookie season to Howard's, when they are much closer in age, they're more comparable (although Robinson still has the edge). It's pretty unfair to compare a still not in his prime Howard versus Robinson as a 27 year old.
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