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Originally Posted by ClippersRuleLA
smh
insulting posters is stupid and doesn't convince them... especially when doing it to moderators... espcially a good moderator
the laughable thing here is that every point you list to defend kobe as the mvp actually illustrates why another player should win the award.
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Listen it's not an insult when someone obviously takes something I said out of context to spin it to what their opinion is regarding who's done more with less. Also I'm not tyring to be smug like you are.
If LeBron had an elite team. You could make the argument that LeBron has done more with less. However the facts are the Cavs are in a dog fight the rest of the way out the East to hold onto the 4th seed. Their record is anything, but elite. If you compare the Western Conference teams 1-8 they all out class LeBrons team record. That right there should give you an idea why the Cavs are not an elite team.
So you cut the fat. And you are left with the elite teams in the NBA. And they are the Hornets, Lakers, Celtics, Pistons, Spurs, Suns, Jazz, etc in the West.
So then you pick out the respective teams best player, Chris Paul, Pistons its hard to say I'll just say Billups, Duncan, Garnett Amare, and Boozer/Williams.
So then you compare those players to each other individually and see who's doing what.
So you cut out a few of the names and your left with a few Paul, Garnett, and Bryant.
So you say alright let's compare great numbers/great teams. Why is Paul playing so great, Why is Kobe playing so great, why is Garnett playing so great.
Well the first thing you say, and know is that they are all great players. So it's a no brainer why they are playing great, but why are they better then everyone else.
Paul has the Hornets in 1st place, Paul is putting up a 20 10 season, okay got it.
Garnett's numbers aren't extremely high, but his team has won 60 games, and Garnetts real value is with defense, community, and changing the landscape of the Cetlics. Okay got it.
Bryant's numbers are better across the board this season, besides PPG, okay he's more efficent, more rebounds, better defense. etc Bryant has the Lakers only a game and half out of 1st place Okay got it.
Then you look further as to why their teams are kicking so much but. Well Garnett has a lot more help with Pierece, and Ray Allen. Along with a good bench, and now great vets to boot.
Paul makes his teammates better, West is an all star this year, Chandler is playing like a beast, and Peja is shooting like Peja of old. Okay got it.
Kobe got Gasol this season, Bynum had a break out year, and the bench is stepping up for the Lakers okay go it.
All of the above I listed is the obvious.
However what's not obvious is for people who dont follow the league year in and year out, like i do and some others who post here.
As much credit Paul gets for making his teammates better, in truth last year it was obvious that Chandler was on his way to being an excellent big. Really Chandlers promise has been obvious since he was playing with the Bulls. Especially in the playoffs when he guarded Shaq and had a really good series. So believe me when I say Paul enhances Chandlers game, but by no means is Chandler the player he is all because of Paul.
West everyone knew was a great player long before Paul ever played for the Hornets. Last year West was getting pub for his great game. But as a lot of you I watch these players from their high school/college days. It was obvious West was going to be a solid all star from the get go. That said I give all the credit in the world to Paul, he get's his teammates open shots, and makes their life easier. Plus Paul is a superior player. He's able to rock n roll with the best of them. He can dish/score, and while he's not a great defender by any means, hes pesky, and has fire in his eyes. So I respect his effort.
As for Peja, no people Peja has been a great shooter, and decent defender long before Paul was even playing High School basketball.
NOW KG does all of what Paul does for the Celtics, but he does it in a different way. He does it with defense, with the way he made that team into a family. He does it by being intense. but positive. KG has made the celtics on a whole a lot better in different ways then Paul, for example, KG has made his bench players superior to other benches in the league. KG brings something that Paul, and Kobe have yet to bring to their teams IMO.
Kobe Bryant, as most have seen this season, is sharing the basketball like never before. He's been not just a teammate on the court, but off to his teammates. He's become a team player people. Add to that Kobe Bryant has Gasol, Bynum, Fisher, Odom, etc to play with. A great team that can get up and down with the best of them. Plus Kobes defense has been his best this season in awhile.
So you ask me well why do you still pick Kobe over the Garnetts , Pauls etc
And I tell you why, because out of the Elite teams, and Superstars on those Elite teams. Kobe has been able to stay stride for stride with a lot less then Garnett, and Paul have had this entire season. And to me that's more impressive then anything. I believe the Lakers fully healthy woudl fo been able to sperate themselves from the pack in the West, and would be as good as Boston. However thats just speculation. What isn't speculation is that all those great players on Boston/New Orleans have been their this entire season for their stars. Look up the stats you will be shocked how many games the Lakers key guys have missed. yet Kobe has kept his team right there to have a chance to be the best in the West this year.
I rest my case.
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