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04-22-2008, 03:33 PM
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Re: Chris paul for MVP
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All of CP's fans hope it's based on what he did this season.All of Kobe's fans hope it's based on baloney.
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How so?
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04-22-2008, 03:44 PM
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The season must go on
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Re: Chris paul for MVP
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well, considering he got absolutely NO national exposure at all other than a few games on espn/abc and some mention of him on espn, they have to get his game out there somehow. since the everyday media is simply enamored with the big name cities and all the attention that they get, i dont really see anything wrong with people wanting to flaunt cp's perormance since everyday viewers didnt get to see any of his outstanding games. it must be nice to live in lakerland and get over 1/5 of your games nationally televised :/
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While I understand your point, I don't think the MVP vote should be persuaded, and influenced like that. All this is going to do is cause a slippery slope of which city can make their "candidate" the appear the best, and making the MVP an even more laughing stock than it is.
The NBA needs to restore the criteria it once used for the MVP, and not allow it to become commercial, and political like. Its ridiculous. All it matters is whether or not Chris Paul's game is good enough for MVP consideration. This year it has been, but is all the extra PR crap necessary? Do schools, rallys, organized events, and sick children really need to send love letters to the NBA explaining why him being MVP would make their lives better?
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04-22-2008, 04:01 PM
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Re: Chris paul for MVP
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How so?
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Come on...do you really have to ask him that question?
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04-22-2008, 04:04 PM
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Re: Chris paul for MVP
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All of CP's fans hope it's based on what he did this season.All of Kobe's fans hope it's based on baloney.
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04-22-2008, 05:36 PM
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Re: Chris paul for MVP
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He is Chris Paul's number one fan, and has a great argument (although there are several) for being Kobe Bryant's biggest hater. You do the math.
Ironically, I don't think either should get it. If you factor in team success, it should be Garnett. He has been a top 5 player, the best defender this year, and led his team to the best record. If you factor just individual greatness, it's LeBron. If Kobe wins it, it will be because the voters have a guilty conscious about robbing him of the award in the past because of his lack of team success (now that his team is good). That's not really right, but he is minus one MVP for his career, so I wouldn't complain. Paul has a nice mix of team success and individual greatness, but he hasn't been the best individual player, and his team isn't the best in the league. So anyone who votes for him is just straddling the criteria, in my opinion.
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04-22-2008, 08:18 PM
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Re: Chris paul for MVP
What I am trying to figure out is why Kobe's season wasn't impressive? Considering all the injuries and still winning the West in the regular season, that wasn't impressive?
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04-22-2008, 08:28 PM
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Re: Chris paul for MVP
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What I am trying to figure out is why Kobe's season wasn't impressive? Considering all the injuries and still winning the West in the regular season, that wasn't impressive?
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its ok. but if you put it against lebrons and cp3's #'s then its spaghetti sauce.
and kg has a higher per and more wins as well.
so what kind of case can u make for kobe again?
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04-22-2008, 08:29 PM
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Re: Chris paul for MVP
chris paul should be third in mvp voting. no way does he deserve to be ahead of lebron or kobe(or behind any other player in the league).
of course the mvp hasn't really been able deserving it or not, so he certainly has a shot.
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04-22-2008, 08:31 PM
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Re: Chris paul for MVP
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chris paul should be third in mvp voting. no way does he deserve to be ahead of lebron or kobe(or behind any other player in the league).
of course the mvp hasn't really been able deserving it or not, so he certainly has a shot.
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Third? Rrrrreeeaaallllyyyy?
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04-22-2008, 08:36 PM
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Re: Chris paul for MVP
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Originally Posted by aznzen
its ok. but if you put it against lebrons and cp3's #'s then its spaghetti sauce.
and kg has a higher per and more wins as well.
so what kind of case can u make for kobe again?
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1. Numbers dont even come close to telling the whole story.
2. Did you really just use PER as a major reason?
3. I like how you forget about two guys named Paul Pierce and Ray Allen
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