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06-15-2008, 12:30 PM
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Re: Hollinger ranks Wade performance as the best finals performance.
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How can you actually say that that picture was an optical illusion?
I'd probably buy a story of it being photoshopped (if it weren't actually on their official website), but an illusion?
You can very clearly see Harris' fingers wrapped around Wade's inner elbow.

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If you see the replay in slow mo, it show Harris going for the ball, nearly grabbing Wade's arm, but stopping just short of doing so. He actually never made contact, just came close.
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06-15-2008, 02:29 PM
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Re: Hollinger ranks Wade performance as the best finals performance.
Just let it die already. Dallas gave the series away and Miami took it, Dwyane Wade was spectacular and almost impossible to contain for any team. He didn't deserve all of his foul calls, but the majority and that happens when you attack the basket like a madman. The Mavs did not lose the Finals because of officiating.
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06-15-2008, 11:58 PM
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Re: Hollinger ranks Wade performance as the best finals performance.
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That infamous foul at the end of game 5 was a total joke. The picture posted is an optical illusion due to the angle. On the video of the "foul", it is clear that nobody actually touched him on the shot. Nowitzki may have grazed his back before the shot, but nobody ever gets that call at the end of the game (see Brent Barry?). Harris certainly didn't touch him. The Dallas Mavs are the true 2006 NBA champions and I'm not even a Mavs fan in the least. How can Heat fans be proud of that championship or argue the refs were even close to fair in that series. How can you actually say it was a fairly reffed series with a straight face?
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What?? "The Dallas Mavs are the true 2006 NBA champions"???
They dropped 4 games straight and lost in 6, you're really taking this "conspiracy" thing a little too seriously.
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Just let it die already. Dallas gave the series away and Miami took it, Dwyane Wade was spectacular and almost impossible to contain for any team. He didn't deserve all of his foul calls, but the majority and that happens when you attack the basket like a madman. The Mavs did not lose the Finals because of officiating.
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I agree. Croco you're a Dallas fan right?
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06-16-2008, 12:47 AM
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Re: Hollinger ranks Wade performance as the best finals performance.
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I really can't stand stat nerds like Hollinger. Wade at #1? Please. Ranking Duncans series against Nets higher than what he did against the Pistons? Does this guy even consider the level of competition or does he just look at his "stats" to come to these conclusions? Other than a couple I think he got lucky on that list is complete horse ****.
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06-16-2008, 01:08 AM
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Re: Hollinger ranks Wade performance as the best finals performance.
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Just for arguments/lighting a matches' sake, per all the calls he got...and this recent Donaghy business...do you think the league/refs could've been pro-Heat and anti-Cuban with their calls that series? Especially in light of the Mavs 2-0 lead.
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I think that Dallas didn't deserve to even be in the finals. I felt that they were overmatched and if anything that is the result of some questionable officiating against San Antonio. The mistakes in that Spurs Mavs series resulted in the weaker team heading to the finals. If you actually go back and watch game 1 of the finals I feel that Miami fans have more cause for complaint than Mavs fans do with either game 3 or game 5.
Dallas started Adrian Griffin against Dwyane Wade and Cleveland Cav's castoff bust Diop against Shaq. Pat Riley also exposed Avery Johnson. Jason Terry was a joke as a point guard (he's really an undersized 2 guard). And T-Mac proved in 2005 that if you make Dirk a shooter with no post up game he's useless. He can't rebound and he has no lateral quickness.
Finally, it's actually pretty hilarious the way that the Mavs guarded Wade at times. They backed off him at times and let him shoot completely uncontested 3 pointers like he was Rajon Rondo or something. It's like they hadn't watched him at all that season and believed the popular opinion that he doesn't have a jump shot (the Gilbert Arenas claim).
I don't even get the complaints with game 3. Why is it frequently mentioned? There were no controversial calls in that game. The irony of that game is that Dirk had 2 free throws with less than 10 secs to tie it (like Wade did in game 5) and Dirk missed 1 and the Mavs lost.
Last but not least I don't get the genius behind putting Devin Harris on Wade in 4th quarters. Wade destroyed him, has a 50 pound advantage on him, and a height advantage to just shoot over him.
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06-16-2008, 03:54 AM
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Re: Hollinger ranks Wade performance as the best finals performance.
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I agree. Croco you're a Dallas fan right?
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Yes I am.
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I think that Dallas didn't deserve to even be in the finals. I felt that they were overmatched and if anything that is the result of some questionable officiating against San Antonio. The mistakes in that Spurs Mavs series resulted in the weaker team heading to the finals. If you actually go back and watch game 1 of the finals I feel that Miami fans have more cause for complaint than Mavs fans do with either game 3 or game 5.
Dallas started Adrian Griffin against Dwyane Wade and Cleveland Cav's castoff bust Diop against Shaq. Pat Riley also exposed Avery Johnson. Jason Terry was a joke as a point guard (he's really an undersized 2 guard). And T-Mac proved in 2005 that if you make Dirk a shooter with no post up game he's useless. He can't rebound and he has no lateral quickness.
Finally, it's actually pretty hilarious the way that the Mavs guarded Wade at times. They backed off him at times and let him shoot completely uncontested 3 pointers like he was Rajon Rondo or something. It's like they hadn't watched him at all that season and believed the popular opinion that he doesn't have a jump shot (the Gilbert Arenas claim).
I don't even get the complaints with game 3. Why is it frequently mentioned? There were no controversial calls in that game. The irony of that game is that Dirk had 2 free throws with less than 10 secs to tie it (like Wade did in game 5) and Dirk missed 1 and the Mavs lost.
Last but not least I don't get the genius behind putting Devin Harris on Wade in 4th quarters. Wade destroyed him, has a 50 pound advantage on him, and a height advantage to just shoot over him.
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You are delusional if you really believe all that stuff. First of all Dallas wasn't lucky to be in the Finals as they were the best team in the West that year. If it wasn't for Bowen's block on Dirk in Game 5 this might have been over in five games. Like so often, the Mavs choked and extended this to seven games, played a perfect first half, blew the lead and fortunately won in OT. Go back to the game thread, most people were saying that the Mavs were the better team, played better and deserved to win.
They had nobody to guard Wade, this is why they had to put Griffin and Harris on him. Detroit had much better personel to contain him, but they didn't it get done either. When he gets his midrange jumpers going, there isn't much you can do and that was by far the biggest reason why Miami won the championship that year, came back in Game 3 and took the lead in Game 5 at the last second again. As for Dirk being useless when you make him a jumpshooter, I don't even know what to say about that, I'd better say nothing. Stop acting like Miami was in total control of that series despite being on the verge of falling down 0-3.
I know you are an avid Dallas hater, but seriously your hate towards everything related to them is rather ridiculous.
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06-16-2008, 11:17 AM
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dirk was more in the post that year [to Adam]. that was the only year he has consistently gotten buckets in the paint.
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06-16-2008, 12:00 PM
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Re: Hollinger ranks Wade performance as the best finals performance.
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that call on dirk was the biggest bull ever, I felt bad for the mavs
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