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Old 01-01-2010, 10:07 PM   #136 (permalink)
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Old 01-01-2010, 10:11 PM   #137 (permalink)
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Old 01-01-2010, 10:11 PM   #138 (permalink)
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The guy who is leading his team to the best record in the league; and also leading the team in scoring. With a freaking broken finger on his shooting hand!
For now. Kobe is having an amazing season but the Lakers haven't looked impressive in many of their wins. Squeaking out games against mediocre teams when you are supposed to be the best team in the league is disconcerting. They'll still be good for 60+ wins but not the 67-68 I thought earlier. Too many mental lapses and poor PG play.

BTW, do not bump this in April when I'm proven wrong Jamel.
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Old 01-01-2010, 10:13 PM   #139 (permalink)
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Re: MVP so far

Kobe with 3 game-winners in a month (Dec 4 09 vs Miami, Dec 16 09 vs Bucks, Jan 1st 2010 vs Kings)

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Old 01-01-2010, 10:16 PM   #140 (permalink)
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For now. Kobe is having an amazing season but the Lakers haven't looked impressive in many of their wins. Squeaking out games against mediocre teams when you are supposed to be the best team in the league is disconcerting. They'll still be good for 60+ wins but not the 67-68 I thought earlier. Too many mental lapses and poor PG play.

BTW, do not bump this in April when I'm proven wrong Jamel.
You can say that about all the elite teams in the NBA this season. They all seem to have been playing up and down to the expectations of the fans in general. And have all had bad losses to mediocre teams, and have played nail biters to mediocre teams.
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I'm really wondering what the Lakers are going to do about the PG position. Fisher is not a starting caliber PG and has not been one for many years now. He's inconsistent shooting the ball and couldn't defend my grandmother with two hip replacements these days.
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Without looking through this thread, as of now it's Kobe. Case closed.
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Old 01-02-2010, 06:28 PM   #147 (permalink)
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Re: MVP so far

To get MVP consideration, you first of all have to be leading a contending team. Then to separate the candidates, you give equal consideration to i) who is more important to their team's success, and ii) raw stats. LeBron clearly edges out Kobe in both, so I can't see how anyone could objectively choose Kobe right now. Incumbency (being last season's champion) and "wow, he's having an awesome season" are irrelevant.

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Old 01-02-2010, 06:47 PM   #148 (permalink)
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To get MVP consideration, you first of all have to be leading a contending team. Then to separate the candidates, you give equal consideration to i) who is more important to their team's success, and ii) raw stats. LeBron clearly edges out Kobe in both, so I can't see how anyone could objectively choose Kobe right now. Incumbency (being last season's champion) and "wow, he's having an awesome season" are irrelevant.
Right, Lakers are pretenders.
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Old 01-02-2010, 07:00 PM   #149 (permalink)
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^ I see how you might have misunderstood. I was just reviewing the basic criteria. Of course, Lakers, Mavs, Cavs, Magic, Celtics, Spurs, and a few other arguables are contenders. The first step would eliminate guys like Chris Paul, Bosh, Durant. So, as far as MVP consideration (as in picking your top 3 MVP nominations), it can include players like Kobe, LeBron, Dirk, Duncan, Dwight Howard, maybe even Nash and Melo.

Anyway, LeBron beats all these guys in 3 of the 5 major statistical categories, is more important to their team's success, and the Cavs are just about as successful as the Lakers. So again, I don't see how anyone can objectively pick Kobe over LeBron right now.
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Dude, LeBron can pick as many MVP awards as he wants. Even Kobe doesn't care about those now. All I care, and it must be overwhelming opinion among Laker fans, is Kobe holding the Larry O'Brien trophy come June, and edging out MJ in terms of 'ship.

Perhaps, you should watch a lot more Laker games. Kobe has had mad stat in Dec - and Lakers would have lost as many games without him as they've won with him.
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