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Old 12-28-2009, 09:34 AM   #121 (permalink)
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Re: MVP so far

As for my vote, I have to give Kobe the slight edge. From watching the games, I can see that Kobe and Lebron are the two best players in the league. Neither guy looks superior to the other. Statistically, they are the two best players in the league. Lebron's stats look better. I'll give the edge to the guy that gets more out of his team. If the Lakers finish with 8 or more wins than the Cavs, I'd probably give it to him. Otherwise, I'd give it to Lebron. It will become clear once the season is over.
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Old 12-28-2009, 09:55 AM   #122 (permalink)
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Kobe has an injured finger on his shooting hand and had to learn to shoot without using his index finger on the ball. Over just the last week he averaged 37 ppg. Thoughts?
Selfish.

LeBron would dial in on his scoring and average 20 assists per game. Because he's that good.

EDIT: and the other version, just in case so I can cover all the ground. Kobe always milks his injuries, which are never serious, so it looks as if he's that tough and that he cares so much about winning. Luckily everyone sees right through his charade of these fake injuries and that supposed toughness of his.
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i would even perfer troy hudson over kobe at this point.
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Old 12-28-2009, 06:34 PM   #123 (permalink)
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Selfish.

LeBron would dial in on his scoring and average 20 assists per game. Because he's that good.

EDIT: and the other version, just in case so I can cover all the ground. Kobe always milks his injuries, which are never serious, so it looks as if he's that tough and that he cares so much about winning. Luckily everyone sees right through his charade of these fake injuries and that supposed toughness of his.
I believe he's really hurt. His finger has been wrapped and it was pointed out the Christmas day game I believe, that he had to retool his shot to adjust. They've won 3 out of the last 4 so I don't think its hurting the team enough to call it selfish. The recent loss to Cleveland obviously stands out when comparing the two players but I would still give it to Kobe. I don't think we can predict what Lebron would do with the same injury, only acknowledge what Kobe has done.
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Old 12-28-2009, 06:41 PM   #124 (permalink)
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he was being sarcastic...
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Old 12-29-2009, 03:01 AM   #126 (permalink)
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i would even perfer troy hudson over kobe at this point.
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Old 12-29-2009, 10:46 PM   #127 (permalink)
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Kobe dropped 44 tonight against the Warriors, I think with that he might have just overtaken Carmelo for the league's scoring leader.
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Old 12-29-2009, 10:52 PM   #128 (permalink)
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I believe so as he was only 1/10th of a point away.

And he also had 11 assists (season high). Kobe's definitely the MVP so far.
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Old 12-29-2009, 10:58 PM   #129 (permalink)
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Kobe is not "definitely" the MVP.
Lebron's got better numbers (PER, TS%, better assist ratio, better rebound rate, higher adjusted+/-) and his team has beaten Phoenix, Orlando, LAL, Atlanta, Dallas, etc with a lot of those wins on the road. For those complaining of Lebron's defense: he's picked that up as he shut down guys like Evans and Joe Johnson just over the last week.
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Old 12-29-2009, 11:01 PM   #130 (permalink)
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Okay, not "definitely."

But I still believe he's the MVP.
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But I still believe he's the MVP.
You are believing that every single season though
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Old 12-30-2009, 02:50 AM   #132 (permalink)
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The guy who is leading his team to the best record in the league; and also leading the league in scoring. With a freaking broken finger on his shooting hand!

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I might say LeBron now given the Lakers 3-2 record an the Cavs 4-0 in the past week or so. They will be the only two viable candidates from now on I think.
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