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**Tom** · 12-31-2011, 03:09 PM

Peja is done.

Adam · 12-31-2011, 03:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Tom

Peja is done.

(as a basketball player).

**R-Star** · 12-31-2011, 03:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Adam

What's more likely, that I was saying he was done as a basketball player or that he was done as a superstar. The latter was obviously implied. It's so obvious that it need not even be stated. Except people like you need to have the obvious stated. I think the average literacy rate on this board is declining. I'll do a study and come up with a formula.

(Will the formula contain brackets?)

**Hyperion** · 12-31-2011, 03:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Adam

You're taking the mean of means and I already said that the data is becoming more like the earlier time points. Of course the '80's points shift the mean but if you just look at the trends then you can see the league is getting younger. All you're stating is that it's not significantly different than it was including the past 20 years. Which I've consistently said. I said it's getting more like it was 20 years ago.

You just contradicted yourself here. If the past 20 years are indifferent to 20 years ago, then there has been no real change to the average anything in the NBA other than height and weight, which I will agree with you that the average player is shorter and stronger.

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But on top of that the current trend hasn't bottomed out yet. I've heard that career length is below four years now and it's still going lower. Players are even younger today than they were in 2008.

When you look at a two tailed t test you can see that 95% of all results will be within the range of [26.842, 27.585] and experience is [4.109, 4.789]. Therefore, there is no real statistical anomaly. Fact.

**Hyperion** · 12-31-2011, 03:42 PM

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Originally Posted by R-Star

(Will the formula contain brackets?)

yes

**Diable** · 12-31-2011, 03:47 PM

I wonder how you use data for ordinary players and then make the leap to somehow superstars becoming less relevant in some hypothetical way. Most NBA players are not good enough to stick in the NBA, everyone knows this and it is not worth ten words discussing it. They come and go like cabs in front of an airport terminal. The really great players are sometimes reliant about their physical height or size and athleticism...those guys usually peak out sooner. The guys who can adjust their games as they get older prolong their careers. Everyone knows all of that and there's not a damned thing in this cracked pot theory that contradicts common knowledge. The whole thing boils down to one person's opinion, but there is no further basis to it.

**R-Star** · 12-31-2011, 03:58 PM

I'll enjoy reading Adams reply tomorrow.

Adam · 12-31-2011, 04:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Hyperion

You just contradicted yourself here. If the past 20 years are indifferent to 20 years ago, then there has been no real change to the average anything in the NBA other than height and weight, which I will agree with you that the average player is shorter and stronger.

I was saying that the final data points reflect the early ones. Somebody just has to look at the list and see they are within the distribution so obviously they can't be significantly different.

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When you look at a two tailed t test you can see that 95% of all results will be within the range of [26.842, 27.585] and experience is [4.109, 4.789]. Therefore, there is no real statistical anomaly. Fact.

I'm confused. Just taking the experience list, you're contradicting yourself. You said yourself you did a t test and the mean is 4.45 and the standard deviation is 0.38. I claimed that the mean today today is below 4.00. That's a statistically significant mean, how are you saying it's not?

**R-Star** · 01-12-2012, 06:33 AM

Yea Adam, Kobe seems pretty done to me.

**Ron** · 01-12-2012, 09:32 AM

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Originally Posted by R-Star

Yea Adam, Kobe seems pretty done to me.

Yeah, he ****ing sucks. This is definitely not a league for old men.

**R-Star** · 01-12-2012, 10:00 AM

I have a feeling he won't post back in this thread until Kobe has a bad game.

goodfoot · 01-12-2012, 10:23 AM

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Originally Posted by R-Star

Yea Adam, Kobe seems pretty done to me.

I was just about to bump this too, lol.

**R-Star** · 01-12-2012, 10:26 AM

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Originally Posted by goodfoot

I was just about to bump this too, lol.

Great minds..

**Hyperion** · 01-12-2012, 10:30 AM

Steroids are awesome!

**R-Star** · 01-12-2012, 10:38 AM

HGH brah. Keeps you young.

12-31-2011, 03:09 PM	#136 (permalink)
Tom -LIFETIME MEMBER- Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Cincinnati Age: 45 Posts: 19,672 Rep Power: 6285236	Re: No League for Old Men Peja is done.

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Diable Limehouse Blues Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: North Carolina Posts: 22,144 Rep Power: 14650805	Re: No League for Old Men I wonder how you use data for ordinary players and then make the leap to somehow superstars becoming less relevant in some hypothetical way. Most NBA players are not good enough to stick in the NBA, everyone knows this and it is not worth ten words discussing it. They come and go like cabs in front of an airport terminal. The really great players are sometimes reliant about their physical height or size and athleticism...those guys usually peak out sooner. The guys who can adjust their games as they get older prolong their careers. Everyone knows all of that and there's not a damned thing in this cracked pot theory that contradicts common knowledge. The whole thing boils down to one person's opinion, but there is no further basis to it. __________________

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R-Star BBB.net Archivist Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: The village of Clive, bro Age: 30 Posts: 37,815 Rep Power: 21474884	Re: No League for Old Men I'll enjoy reading Adams reply tomorrow. __________________

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R-Star BBB.net Archivist Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: The village of Clive, bro Age: 30 Posts: 37,815 Rep Power: 21474884	Re: No League for Old Men I have a feeling he won't post back in this thread until Kobe has a bad game. __________________

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R-Star BBB.net Archivist Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: The village of Clive, bro Age: 30 Posts: 37,815 Rep Power: 21474884	Re: No League for Old Men HGH brah. Keeps you young. __________________

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