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Old 01-12-2013, 02:44 PM   #286 (permalink)
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Is it really no league for old men Adam?


I went back and read your age to time in league equation. Its finally making sense to me.
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Re: No League for Old Men

The way I see it is if you can compete well at 14, then you should be allowed to play NBA basketball at 14. Many professional tennis players went pro at 14, and there are olympians in their teens who train harder than NBA players.

Personally, I think the NBA wants to keep a stable NBA in terms of the players we see and hear about. In other words, they don't want an ever-changing NBA environment. Players like Kevin Garnett, Jason Kidd,Derek Fisher (Yes, I know he retired just recently) and many others should have long been out of this league. The best basketball players are NOT in the NBA. You would be foolish to think otherwise!
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I get it, when I asked you to have "a thing" its to be the crazy guy.

Awesome. I like it.
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Old 01-13-2013, 12:34 PM   #289 (permalink)
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I get it, when I asked you to have "a thing" its to be the crazy guy.

Awesome. I like it.
The crazy guy? lol I hope that's not the impression I'm giving off.

I just like being honest. The best players are NOT in the NBA. Surely there is someone out there better than Kurt Thomas! : )
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The crazy guy? lol I hope that's not the impression I'm giving off.

I just like being honest. The best players are NOT in the NBA. Surely there is someone out there better than Kurt Thomas! : )
Its not a 14 year old. I can tell you that much.


Kurt Thomas is still in the league because he brings what you want from a deep bench big. He'll come in, play good/decent D, not take any dumb fouls, and is a good mentor for the young players.

If you fill that role with a young player with potential to be good, hes making mistakes down the stretch if you put him in, isn't getting enough playing time, and isn't the positive veteran presence that Thomas is for your team.
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Its not a 14 year old. I can tell you that much.


Kurt Thomas is still in the league because he brings what you want from a deep bench big. He'll come in, play good/decent D, not take any dumb fouls, and is a good mentor for the young players.

If you fill that role with a young player with potential to be good, hes making mistakes down the stretch if you put him in, isn't getting enough playing time, and isn't the positive veteran presence that Thomas is for your team.
Well I was only using 14 as an extreme example. My main point is that if a young player in his teens is able to compete, then age should not be a factor. For that matter, old or young, it shouldn't matter as long as he can compete.

The NBA doesn't want an ever-changing environment. If the NBA truly allowed the best competition in, then players would be entering and exiting at a much faster rate than you see now. Shaq sucks and doesn't come close to representing the highest competition, but I bet if he wanted to come back and play the NBA would let him in.
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Well I was only using 14 as an extreme example. My main point is that if a young player in his teens is able to compete, then age should not be a factor. For that matter, old or young, it shouldn't matter as long as he can compete.

The NBA doesn't want an ever-changing environment. If the NBA truly allowed the best competition in, then players would be entering and exiting at a much faster rate than you see now. Shaq sucks and doesn't come close to representing the highest competition, but I bet if he wanted to come back and play the NBA would let him in.
No one would sign Shaq at this point. You keep mentioning big men though and there isn't an abundance of them out there to begin with.


The best players in the world play in the NBA. Every once in a while a player comes around who lights the league up in his rookie year, but it doesn't happen often, which goes to prove the point that its not like these guys are being held back for the most part.
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The best players in the world play in the NBA.
Simply not true! : )

What about the top players throughout European, African, South American, and Asian leagues. Are you telling me even those top superstar players are not better than some of the NBA's bench players? : )

Suppose Tony Parker never left France and continued to thrive there. Wouldn't his talent still be better than more than half the NBA?

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The way I see it is if you can compete well at 14, then you should be allowed to play NBA basketball at 14. Many professional tennis players went pro at 14, and there are olympians in their teens who train harder than NBA players.

Personally, I think the NBA wants to keep a stable NBA in terms of the players we see and hear about. In other words, they don't want an ever-changing NBA environment. Players like Kevin Garnett, Jason Kidd,Derek Fisher (Yes, I know he retired just recently) and many others should have long been out of this league. The best basketball players are NOT in the NBA. You would be foolish to think otherwise!
Ya lets have pre-puberty teens in the league. How will they finish school with the NBA schedule? Their body structure is weak and would get injured probably within a weak. Can you imagine Lebron at 14 taking a charge on himself now...Shattered.

18/19 is fine...almost even took early for most.
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Your phrasing makes it sound like there are better players out there than the top players in the league. All the players that would matter in the NBA play in the NBA, save for a small handful.
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Simply not true! : )

What about the top players throughout European, African, South American, and Asian leagues. Are you telling me even those top superstar players are not better than some of the NBA's bench players? : )

Suppose Tony Parker never left France and continued to thrive there. Wouldn't his talent still be better than more than half the NBA?
What Euro player has been inducted in the Hall of Fame? I rest my case.

This isn't even an argument man. The Best players are in the NBA, and that's why Tony Parker is in the NBA and not in europe.
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Ya lets have pre-puberty teens in the league. How will they finish school with the NBA schedule? Their body structure is weak and would get injured probably within a weak. Can you imagine Lebron at 14 taking a charge on himself now...Shattered.

18/19 is fine...almost even took early for most.
Keep in mind that I said if he could "compete." As far as finishing school, that is a small matter. Most child actors and celebrities do home school, so I would assume a teen NBA player would do the same.

Olympians train and compete as early as childhood so why shouldn't they compete in the NBA if they are capable of do so?

The NBA does not represent the best players. They pick and choose who gets the special privilege to enter, and they allow bad players to overstay their welcome. Just my two cents. : )
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Keep in mind that I said if he could "compete." As far as finishing school, that is a small matter. Most child actors and celebrities do home school, so I would assume a teen NBA player would do the same.

Olympians train and compete as early as childhood so why shouldn't they compete in the NBA if they are capable of do so?

The NBA does not represent the best players. They pick and choose who gets the special privilege to enter, and they allow bad players to overstay their welcome. Just my two cents. : )
Olympians train for an event that happens every 4 years and those young teenager events are things like gymnastics which is a 20 second routine and not 3 hours of running around.

You don't see 14 year olds playing Olympic basketball do you?



and NBA Basketball is an 82 game 8 month schedule every year.

I don't quite see you logic at all. Makes no sense.
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What Euro player has been inducted in the Hall of Fame? I rest my case.

This isn't even an argument man. The Best players are in the NBA, and that's why Tony Parker is in the NBA and not in europe.
The NBA is the league that pays the most, so it gives us the illusion that the best players play where there is the most money. Everyone doesn't care about the money to the point they are willing to leave their home country. This explains why most NBA players are American, most Chinese players are Chinese, most Italian players are Italian, etc.

Now lets suppose a basketball league in the country Uzbekistan pays the most money. Do you really think all of the best American players will move their families to Uzbekistan? United States just happens to be a popular enough country that if a person does have the courage to leave their native land, they would be happy to choose America.
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Olympians train for an event that happens every 4 years and those young teenager events are things like gymnastics which is a 20 second routine and not 3 hours of running around.

You don't see 14 year olds playing Olympic basketball do you?



and NBA Basketball is an 82 game 8 month schedule every year.

I don't quite see you logic at all. Makes no sense.
That 20 second routine that you speak of is often a once in a lifetime opportunity for olympians, and they dedicate their lives to perform optimally when that 20 second opportunity occurs. To even participate in the Olympics they have to win many extremely challenging races before that. They train just as hard, if not harder than NBA players.

Aside from that, I don't see why so many people discriminate on age. The way I see it is if you can physically compete at 14 in the NBA, so be it, and if you can compete at 48, so be it.

Kobe Bryant was probably better than half the NBA when he was still in high-school. : )
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