No League for Old Men

[Jamel Irief]

Chris Paul only went to college one year huh?

[Luke]

Originally Posted by Jamel Irief

Chris Paul only went to college one year huh?

I guess all learn something new everyday.

[R-Star]

Originally Posted by Adam

I showed you that over a seven year period the average length of an NBA career decreased 16%. I've read that career length today is below 4 years. That means that over the last 12 years the average career length has decreased by 25%. If I proved your point then thanks for agreeing with me that NBA careers are finishing sooner and players are getting younger.

There's more players being drafted, coming in for a couple years, and not making it in the big leagues. That isn't indicative of players deteriorating sooner. There are a lot more players these days drafted for their athletic potential that don't pan out in the NBA.

I'm surprised you keep coming back to this thread.

[Jamel Irief]

Originally Posted by VanillaPrice

I guess all learn something new everyday.

That was a hectic point in my life. Maybe the two years I remember him being at Wake went by so long it just seemed like it was two years.

[MemphisX]

So this is a long thread about an imaginary trend?

[R-Star]

Yep.

[Adam]

Originally Posted by MemphisX

So this is a long thread about an imaginary trend?

Do you work in Canadian numbers as well? I posted a link that shows the league is getting younger, smaller, lighter, and careers are lasting shorter and it's a downward trend whereas there was a 15 year upward trend before that.

[R-Star]

Originally Posted by Adam

Do you work in Canadian numbers as well? I posted a link that shows the league is getting younger, smaller, lighter, and careers are lasting shorter and it's a downward trend whereas there was a 15 year upward trend before that.

No. You actually didn't. The fact you fail to understand that is hilarious.

You called me out saying "Don't you understand numbers, the league is the youngest its been in 20 years!", when in reality, the link you posted shows the previous 2 years were younger, not to mention numerous years from the 80's. Also, the fact that there is a variance of less than 2 years up and down throughout the 20 years.

Now all the sudden you're throwing in height and weight like it has something to do with your original age discussion (it doesn't).

We should start a count of the threads you make or try to take over, have everyone tell you you're wrong, and you still argue and try to act like you know what you're talking about.

Let me guess:

Originally Posted by Adam

Oh yea? Well maybe we should make one of those count thread things with you R-Star! Ha! You're stupid! Canadians a dumbest!

Good one Adam. Good one.

[R-Star]

I finally read the first post. Wow.

That is some of utter garbage right there.

"Sorry, but I can just draft Norris Cole."

[Adam]

Originally Posted by R-Star

Also, the fact that there is a variance of less than 2 years up and down throughout the 20 years.

You have to look at percent change you redneck. You work with numbers and don't even know that?

Originally Posted by R-Star

I finally read the first post. Wow.

Of course you just did. You're such a valuable, contributing member of this forum. So knowledgeable too. And great with numbers.

[R-Star]

Originally Posted by Adam

You have to look at percent change you redneck. You work with numbers and don't even know that?



Of course you just did. You're such a valuable, contributing member of this forum. So knowledgeable too. And great with numbers.

YEAR____AGE
1985-86 26.72
1986-87 26.53
1987-88 27.01
1988-89 26.92
1989-90 26.79
1990-91 27.01
1991-92 27.09
1992-93 27.19
1993-94 27.26
1994-95 27.43
1995-96 27.56
1996-97 27.74
1997-98 27.82
1998-99 27.82
1999-00 27.95
2000-01 27.75
2001-02 27.47
2002-03 27.34
2003-04 27.22
2004-05 27.03
2005-06 26.70
2006-07 26.67
2007-08 26.89

There's the list you posted a link to, with the average player for each year.

Please, feel free to convert this into the percentage you're talking about.


At some point, you need to put away the shovel and just take your loss on this.

[Adam]

Originally Posted by R-Star

YEAR____AGE
1985-86 26.72
1986-87 26.53
1987-88 27.01
1988-89 26.92
1989-90 26.79
1990-91 27.01
1991-92 27.09
1992-93 27.19
1993-94 27.26
1994-95 27.43
1995-96 27.56
1996-97 27.74
1997-98 27.82
1998-99 27.82
1999-00 27.95
2000-01 27.75
2001-02 27.47
2002-03 27.34
2003-04 27.22
2004-05 27.03
2005-06 26.70
2006-07 26.67
2007-08 26.89

There's the list you posted a link to, with the average player for each year.

Please, feel free to convert this into the percentage you're talking about.


At some point, you need to put away the shovel and just take your loss on this.

You do realize that the column "EXP" is the one that denotes average career length, right? After a seven year period average career length dropped 16%. Today it's down 25% from 1999-2000.

The average age (the column you posted) dropping a full year in an 8 year period in a sport with an age rule and a very set age range that it can be physically played is a pretty significant change.

[R-Star]

Originally Posted by Adam

You do realize that the column "EXP" is the one that denotes average career length, right? After a seven year period average career length dropped 16%. Today it's down 25% from 1999-2000.

The average age (the column you posted) dropping a full year in an 8 year period in a sport with an age rule and a very set age range that it can be physically played is a pretty significant change.

It went up appoximately 1 year to the mid 90's and then back down 1 year to the late 00's. You do understand that's called a trend correct?

You also understand that the "EXP" that you're talking about represents average league experience, and not average career length, correct?

No?

[Adam]

Originally Posted by R-Star

It went up appoximately 1 year to the mid 90's and then back down 1 year to the late 00's. You do understand that's called a trend correct?

You also understand that the "EXP" that you're talking about represents average league experience, and not average career length, correct?

No?

No shit it's a trend. I said it myself that the league was on an upward trend in age, experience, and size and peaked in '99 and since then it has been on a downward trend to now where it's the lowest it has been since the '80's. The league is getting shorter, lighter, and younger. That's my whole point.

[R-Star]

Originally Posted by Adam

No shit it's a trend. I said it myself that the league was on an upward trend in age, experience, and size and peaked in '99 and since then it has been on a downward trend to now where it's the lowest it has been since the '80's. The league is getting shorter, lighter, and younger. That's my whole point.

You should reread your posts and figure out what your point actually was. It's not really a point if you change it every time I post something to make you look stupid.


You know, it really seems like my Redneck Canadian ass is doing a better job understanding the numbers you posted, now doesn't it?