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Old 07-09-2012, 02:40 PM   #1861 (permalink)
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Re: UPDATE: Nets, Magic make progress on potential blockbuster for Dwight Howard

Yeah Brooklyn is offering to trade all these guys and none of them are under contract. They'd have to sign Gaines, Shelden Williams, Armon Johnson, Lopez, Humphries and Damion James before they could make this trade. And of course the Magic don't really want any of those guys.
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Old 07-09-2012, 02:42 PM   #1862 (permalink)
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Two more days. This talk is very tiresome because there really isn't anything going on.
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Old 07-09-2012, 02:44 PM   #1863 (permalink)
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Isn't MarShon Brooks already a high-upside guy? You already know MarShon has potential. Why trade for an unknown, that will probably end up at a later pick than when Marshon was drafted? I suppose Cavaliers don't want to crowd their SG position w/ Dion Waiters, but they shouldn't have made that pick anyway...
Brooks is going to turn 24 in the middle of next season and is limited athletically. He's going to have a fine career, and I wish the C's had held onto him, but at his absolute peak I don't think he's a guy you ever want to count on for more than 15 ppg. He's very skilled offensively, but I don't think he has the tools to go the Paul Pierce route of below the rim/midrange stardom from the wing.
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Re: UPDATE: Nets, Magic make progress on potential blockbuster for Dwight Howard

Everything that's being leaked out right now is coming from Brooklyn's end to try and accelerate the perception that this is going to happen.

Still no clue on Humphries and Lopez contracts. Fegan is saying Humphries wants multiple guaranteed years, disputing what Cleveland wants.
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Old 07-09-2012, 02:48 PM   #1865 (permalink)
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Orlando should hold onto Dwight for a few months and then amnesty him after everyone uses their cap space.
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Old 07-09-2012, 02:48 PM   #1866 (permalink)
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Re: UPDATE: Nets, Magic make progress on potential blockbuster for Dwight Howard

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Lakers are holding up the Dwight deal, not the Magic. And Bynum wouldn't sign an extension, so potentially both teams would get screwed.
my understanding is that it's better for the player to re-sign as a FA where he can land a maxed out contract with an additional year (rather than extending an existing contract) - the Magic would still have the leverage of that extra year and maxed money and could probably get as much as they are purportedly getting now if they did have to do an S&T down the road anyway

as far as the Lakers holding up the deal that's probably what this is all about - they dont want to take back trash contracts and the Magic are trying to get them to up the ante - I dont think Mitch should blink on this - let them have Lopez and crap
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Old 07-09-2012, 02:51 PM   #1867 (permalink)
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Re: UPDATE: Nets, Magic make progress on potential blockbuster for Dwight Howard

This is really going to test me as a fan of the Magic if it goes down. Just an atrocious deal. Brook ****ing Lopez and shitty picks? I'd rather let him walk next year.
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Old 07-09-2012, 02:59 PM   #1868 (permalink)
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my understanding is that it's better for the player to re-sign as a FA where he can land a maxed out contract with an additional year (rather than extending an existing contract) - the Magic would still have the leverage of that extra year and maxed money and could probably get as much as they are purportedly getting now if they did have to do an S&T down the road anyway

as far as the Lakers holding up the deal that's probably what this is all about - they dont want to take back trash contracts and the Magic are trying to get them to up the ante - I dont think Mitch should blink on this - let them have Lopez and crap
This is what I'm thinking. Orlando probably wants Kupchak to take back Turkoglu in the deal and have leaked out this 4-team extravaganza into the media as an attempt to get LA to bite. I don't think Kupchak blinks. While having Howard would be a great upgrade for LA, they're not desperate for it. They could go into this year with Bynum at C and be just fine.
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Old 07-09-2012, 03:08 PM   #1869 (permalink)
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Re: UPDATE: Nets, Magic make progress on potential pile of crap for Dwight Howard

Yeah but Dwight doesn't want to play in Los Angeles, thats why Los Angeles isn't progressing any talks. They aren't going to gamble.
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Yeah but Dwight doesn't want to play in Los Angeles, thats why Los Angeles isn't progressing any talks. They aren't going to gamble.
we already did this but ok

Dwight you cant go to brooklyn as a free agent next summer because they are capped out so your choices are

1) stay here in LA and contend for a title while enjoying a maxed contract with an extra guaranteed year

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2) go to crappy team x that has plenty of space but no chance at contention and make less money guaranteed over less time
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Yeah I'm aware but you made it sound as if only the Magic would be gambling.
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Im a Brooks fan, but im not exactly sure I get what we (Clippers) are doing here. We are going to have the same problem we had last year, overload at SG. Instead of Foye, Billups/Young, Mo we now have Billups, Crawford, Brooks. Are we really going to go with a 3 guard lineup off the bench again?
Who knows what Billups is going to look like next year, I'm not sure he's a lock to be a starter at this point. At the very least, I doubt he plays 36 minutes or anything. He played 30 minutes a night last season and shot 36% from the field.

I really like this deal for the Clippers.
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Im just not that huge a fan of the 3 guard lineup without one of the guys having size. Vinny loves the 3 guard offense off the bench, but with no rebounding or a wing defender its going to be ugly at times (just like this season).
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What a god awful deal.
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at the thread title.
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