OFFICIAL: Dwight Howard traded to Lakers

[R-Star]

Originally Posted by Bogg

The problem with Bynum and one or two draft picks at the bottom of the first round is that he's good enough to keep you from being one of the worst teams in the league, but he isn't one of those top-ten guys that put you in position to win your division every year, and the Magic are capped out so they can't bring in any other players for two years. It's why the Magic are holding out for Bynum and Gasol, because they literally might be better bottoming out with cap space and draft picks than they would be with building around Bynum.

Yep. If I'm the Magic and I know I'm losing Dwight, I'd rather blow it up and build through the draft and start freeing up cap space for big name FA's to build around. Dwight might not want to play there, but Orlando has brought in big name FA's before, they could again in a few years.

[e-monk]

how did those FAs do for them? history of injuries, barely kept their heads above .500 and enjoyed a series of first round exits

[R-Star]

Originally Posted by e-monk

how did those FAs do for them? history of injuries, barely kept their heads above .500 and enjoyed a series of first round exits

That's nothing Bynum is going to change.

If the Lakers are smart, they dump Bynum for the most they can get for him right now. Guys 24 with a huge injury history, and now hes getting his knees lubed? Doesn't sound promising to me that hes already having to do all this precautionary shit.

[Dre]

2 years isn't a long time. Make the playoffs then go after who you want in 2014 or whatever. You guys fail to understand Owners can blow it up, but GMs can't. Otis can't sign his death certificate by coming away with nothing here. It sounds easy to say on a message board, but you can't just absolutely suck as a GM and expect to keep your job.

And Devos is 85 and doesn't want to rebuild. So he might be willing to take Bynum just to make the playoffs and see what else can happen transaction wise. 2 years is a long time in NBA terms, you never know who might come on the block.

[R-Star]

Originally Posted by Dre

2 years isn't a long time. Make the playoffs then go after who you want in 2014 or whatever. You guys fail to understand Owners can blow it up, but GMs can't. Otis can't sign his death certificate by coming away with nothing here. It sounds easy to say on a message board, but you can't just absolutely suck as a GM and expect to keep your job.

And Devos is 85 and doesn't want to rebuild. So he might be willing to take Bynum just to make the playoffs and see what else can happen transaction wise. 2 years is a long time in NBA terms, you never know who might come on the block.

I'm saying its what I'd do. I don't expect it to happen though.

[e-monk]

who are you going to sign? Deron Williams (unlikely) or ???

[Wilt_The_Stilt]

http://www.elnuevodia.com/serumoraqu...a-1198812.html

There is a link to the Lakers/Minny/Orlando rumor. It's from a Puerto Rican newspaper. Supposedly they broke the Barea signing before anyone else.

As far as the Wolves side of the deal, Beasley is probably gone after this season and could most likely be had on his own for a pick. So they are basically talking Barea and Williams for Gasol. Not that crazy, although I think they should be going after a wing like Kevin Martin instead.

[R-Star]

Originally Posted by e-monk

who are you going to sign? Deron Williams (unlikely) or ???

Who knows what will happen. My plan if I were them would be a high draft pick in next year and the year afters draft to get a good 1-2 combo, and then signing the best players the can to build around their new core.

Hard to say right now who'd be available.

[R-Star]

Originally Posted by Wilt_The_Stilt

http://www.elnuevodia.com/serumoraqu...a-1198812.html

There is a link to the Lakers/Minny/Orlando rumor. It's from a Puerto Rican newspaper. Supposedly they broke the Barea signing before anyone else.

As far as the Wolves side of the deal, Beasley is probably gone after this season and could most likely be had on his own for a pick. So they are basically talking Barea and Williams for Gasol. Not that crazy, although I think they should be going after a wing like Kevin Martin instead.

Its rumored he could be had for a pick. Not much solid behind it though. And even if he could be had for a pick, that doesn't make him a throw in. You'd think the Lakers would have to throw in a 1st or two.

[Wilt_The_Stilt]

Originally Posted by R-Star

Its rumored he could be had for a pick. Not much solid behind it though. And even if he could be had for a pick, that doesn't make him a throw in. You'd think the Lakers would have to throw in a 1st or two.

Maybe they would. But at the end of the day the Wolves are still trading three bench players for one of the best bigs in the game. Like I said, I think they should go after a wing and I could understand why they might not do it, but I don't think it is outlandish.

[e-monk]

Originally Posted by Wilt_The_Stilt

http://www.elnuevodia.com/serumoraqu...a-1198812.html

There is a link to the Lakers/Minny/Orlando rumor. It's from a Puerto Rican newspaper. Supposedly they broke the Barea signing before anyone else.

As far as the Wolves side of the deal, Beasley is probably gone after this season and could most likely be had on his own for a pick. So they are basically talking Barea and Williams for Gasol. Not that crazy, although I think they should be going after a wing like Kevin Martin instead.

so the Magic get Williams and Bynum

the Lakers get Howard, Beasley and Barea?

and the TWovles get Gasol?

actually not a fan of this

[R-Star]

Originally Posted by Wilt_The_Stilt

Maybe they would. But at the end of the day the Wolves are still trading three bench players for one of the best bigs in the game. Like I said, I think they should go after a wing and I could understand why they might not do it, but I don't think it is outlandish.

Not outlandish. If they get Pau and a first or two its realistic. I don't think its a good move for a young team building towards the future, but we've all seen GM's make stupider moves than that over the years.

[R-Star]

Originally Posted by e-monk

so the Magic get Williams and Bynum

the Lakers get Howard, Beasley and Barea?

and the TWovles get Gasol?

actually not a fan of this

Strengthens the 1,3 and 5 but leaves you with no one for the 4.

[e-monk]

Originally Posted by R-Star

Its rumored he could be had for a pick. Not much solid behind it though. And even if he could be had for a pick, that doesn't make him a throw in. You'd think the Lakers would have to throw in a 1st or two.

the Wolves need to throw him in to make the money work and the Lakers netting Beasley, Barea and Howard for Pau and Bynum get mildly screwed - Beasley's a head case working his way onto his third team in as many seasons

[Wilt_The_Stilt]

Originally Posted by R-Star

Not outlandish. If they get Pau and a first or two its realistic. I don't think its a good move for a young team building towards the future, but we've all seen GM's make stupider moves than that over the years.

There are a young team but they are still in the playoff hunt. If they get Gasol they are in the playoffs. If they can also add a guy like Kevin Martin with all the expiring/non-guaranteed contracts they have they are in business. I'm just not sure whether they are willing to spend the money.