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Old 02-27-2012, 05:05 PM   #736 (permalink)
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I'm going to say Mark Cuban is feeling himself right about now. I think he sees the target well within his range
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Old 02-28-2012, 08:37 AM   #737 (permalink)
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Re: Dwight Howard: Trade Request Still Stands, But Staying in Orlando a "Big Possibil

Is there any word from Deron saying that he would re-sign with the Nets if they get Dwight Howard? I doubt Howard would want to go to New Jersey without another star being there. The stuff that I'm reading these days seems like Deron is gone for sure.
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I'm going to say Mark Cuban is feeling himself right about now. I think he sees the target well within his range
if Orlando plays their cards right Cuban might throw them a bone and send them a protected 1st rounder just so Dwight can get that one additional year on his contract

and then after the Mavs amensty Haywood he'll even send Prokhorov a nice fruit basket or something after he signs Williams
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Re: Dwight Howard: Trade Request Still Stands, But Staying in Orlando a "Big Possibil

That's so stupid.

"Trade me....but if you don't, there's a good chance I'll stay this off-season"

What an idiot
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if Orlando plays their cards right Cuban might throw them a bone and send them a protected 1st rounder just so Dwight can get that one additional year on his contract

and then after the Mavs amensty Haywood he'll even send Prokhorov a nice fruit basket or something after he signs Williams
Dirk's contract makes it impossible for Dallas to sign both.
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Re: Dwight Howard: Trade Request Still Stands, But Staying in Orlando a "Big Possibil

the nets can just sign him outright too

Orlando is looking very savvy at the moment
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Dirk's contract makes it impossible for Dallas to sign both.
But he can restructure his contract and take up to a 40% paycut for capspace.
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But he can restructure his contract and take up to a 40% paycut for capspace.
Is this actually true? While I've seen message board posters assert it, the NBA's official CBA summation still says renegotiated deals "may not provide for a decrease in salary in any season". So until I find something more authoritative I'm thinking that Dallas needs to amnesty Dirk for Howard & Williams.
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Not quite, because even if the number is right (and I have very real doubts based on the fact that everyone that makes the claim has a different figure somewhere between 30%-50%), and Dirk took an $8 million paycut (a dubious assumption at best), Dallas still wouldn't have the room. Even with that reduction they would have approximately $28 million tied up in six players next year, factor in the six minimum cap holds and that figure goes up to about $33 million, which would leave them about $27 million in cap space. Or about 2/3 of what they would need for two max signings.
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unless of course they move Marion before the trade deadline for the Lakers TPE (that they gave them)?!
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In the NBA’s rush to piece together a new CBA and in the media’s rush to report on it, news circulated of a new ‘renegotiation-and-extension provision’ that would allow a team to re-do a big contract to spread it over more years, thus lessening its burden on each year’s cap.



Clever - especially with the open secret of the Dallas Mavericks eyeballing ways to squeeze Dwight Howard and Dirk Nowitzki and Deron Williams onto the same roster.

Such a concept, presumably modeled after the NFL's practice, would have changed some of the hassle of dealing with the cap from year to year, and opened up lots of possibilities for creative GMing.

DB.com has obtained a copy of the revised CBA, and after a look at its contents and a huddle with Mark Cuban, here’s what we discovered about such a possibility: It does not exist.

As it has been widely reported, such an idea would have allowed a team to re-do a player contract (with the player's permission, of course) where the payout was lowered in the short term, but where the contract was then extended so that the player also gained as well. Of further import, it would have provided a method for a team to manipulate its cap room, creating the ability to move some cap money from one year to a later one.



And its assumed existence had amateur GMs – avid fans and smart sportswriters alike -- mulling the possibilities and drooling over the flexibility their team might gain.

Imagine, for instance, if you could work with a cooperative Nowitzki to lessen his cap impact next summer, giving the Mavericks even more room to pursue Dwight or Deron – or both.

The possibilities were endless. Calculators were set to get overworked, all thought.

Alas, after reading the new CBA, we determined that such an idea (as outlined above) does NOT exist at all. And our man Mike Fisher visited one-on-one with Mavs owner Mark Cuban who confirmed our findings.

There is indeed a ‘renegotiation-and-extension’ provision in the new CBA, however, and its existence is undoubtedly the source of the reports we have heard. But elsewhere in the new CBA, we find the following definition(s):

“Renegotiation,” “renegotiate,” or “renegotiated” means Contract amendment that provides for an increase in Salary and/or Unlikely Bonuses." And in the section regarding renegotiations and extensions, we read this: "In no event shall a Team and player negotiate a decrease in Salary or in any Incentive Compensation for any Salary Cap Year covered by a Player Contract."

As we looked closely, what we discovered actually being defined in the "renegotiation-and-extension" concept is a way for a player to get MORE money in the short term, for a team under the cap, in exchange for an extension at a lesser-than-normal contractual amount. In such a situation, the extended years can contain a significant decrease from the pay in the old contract.
http://mavericks.scout.com/2/1145100.html
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