OFFICIAL: Dwight Howard traded to Lakers

[E.H. Munro]

Originally Posted by e-monk

ruination complete

I think people were confusing separate provisions, because I believe there's a provision to waive a player and spread his salary across more seasons (thus reducing the cap hit for waived players), and it got jumbled together with the renegotiate & extend provision.

[Bogg]

Originally Posted by King Sancho Fantastic

http://mavericks.scout.com/2/1145100.html

That's essentially what OKC did with both Collison and Perkins last season, giving each as much of a bump in their salary last year as they could to reduce the amount paid out in their respective extensions. I'm thinking it's not a new provision, but just something that got tweaked during the negotiation process.

[R-Star]

Originally Posted by E.H. Munro

I think people were confusing separate provisions, because I believe there's a provision to waive a player and spread his salary across more seasons (thus reducing the cap hit for waived players), and it got jumbled together with the renegotiate & extend provision.

If you waive a player, any other team can claim their rights in a 48 hour period can they not?

[e-monk]

isnt there some wire priority ranking?

[R-Star]

Originally Posted by e-monk

isnt there some wire priority ranking?

I'm basing this all on my knowledge of other sports, but yea, there is a waiver priority ranking in other leagues based on your record and if you've picked up a guy off the waiver wire previously that season.


If anyone ever tried to waive a guy like Dirk to restructure his contract, he'd be picked up by another team. Without question.

[Dre]

We can amnesty or offload Haywood or Marion and have room for both, especially with Odom's buyout to come.

[Dre]

I don't know if people are being anti-LA or what, but everywhere I read counts out LA mostly because Dwight doesn't want to emulate Shaq or be Kobe's sidekick. Apparently Kobe's vision got relayed to Dwight and he wasn't flattered.

At this point I'd say he wants to go to BK but the pieces just aren't there for a trade. Dallas is a cross that bridge when we come to it situation...LA is a longshot. And of course Orlando could still keep him with a blockbuster noone saw coming, but those chances are just very small. I feel like in his heart of hearts if Orlando had cap room or got him another huge piece he'd stay no problem.

And Deron and Dwight isn't necessarily a package deal or close to it, the media is making it seem that way cause it's a juicy story.

[E.H. Munro]

Originally Posted by R-Star

If you waive a player, any other team can claim their rights in a 48 hour period can they not?

Well, yeah, anyone with $21 million in cap space could claim Dirk. But what I was referring to was the provision to reduce the cap hit from the Eddy Curryesque contracts that teams sign bad players to (if I recall you can spread the remaining salary out for an extra two years beyond what's remaining, thus encouraging teams to get rid of non-performers). No one's releasing a superstar to reduce the cap hit. I doubt that even Donald Sterling is that cheap.

[seifer0406]

Originally Posted by Dre

I don't know if people are being anti-LA or what, but everywhere I read counts out LA mostly because Dwight doesn't want to emulate Shaq or be Kobe's sidekick. Apparently Kobe's vision got relayed to Dwight and he wasn't flattered.

At this point I'd say he wants to go to BK but the pieces just aren't there for a trade. Dallas is a cross that bridge when we come to it situation...LA is a longshot. And of course Orlando could still keep him with a blockbuster noone saw coming, but those chances are just very small. I feel like in his heart of hearts if Orlando had cap room or got him another huge piece he'd stay no problem.

I agree that this isn't a "I want to play in a big city" move rather it's a "Since I'm moving, I rather go play in a big city" type of move. If Orlando can put together a contender I'm sure Dwight would stay. It's the same with Lebron as well. Had the Cavs been able to find that second star, chances are Lebron would've stayed also. The problem is theres no way for Orlando to acquire any one worthawhile at least for next year. If Orlando wants to re-sign Dwight they will somehow have to convince Dwight to wait another year and hopefully that Orlando can turn the expiring contracts of Redick and Nelson into an allstar caliber player. Meanwhile Ryan Anderson's contract expires this season. With the way that he's playing coupled with Orlando's desperation it would surprise no one to see Orlando vastly overpay the guy. It's just a bottomless pit of trouble for Dwight if he stays in Orlando.

[e-monk]

Originally Posted by E.H. Munro

No one's releasing a superstar to reduce the cap hit. I doubt that even Donald Sterling is that cheap.

wait for two seasons from now when Jim Buss amnesties Kobe and his 30m salary

[Ron]

Originally Posted by e-monk

wait for two seasons from now when Jim Buss amnesties Kobe and his 30m salary

I know what you are saying and anything this prick does wouldn't surprise me, but if he did do that he may be tar and feathered and run out of town on a rail.

[Knicks4life]

What if he does it to sign Deron Williams and Dwight Howard in free agency?

[Ron]

Originally Posted by Knicks4life

What if he does it to sign Deron Williams and Dwight Howard in free agency?

What is the sun rises in the West and is green in color?

Pray tell, where the **** is he going to get the money to do that? I did not know the new cap is $160 million per team.

[Ron]

Oh, you are saying AFTER he amnesties Kobe in two years...I get it.

But by then Howard will have his long-term deal with Dallas and Deron Williams will be...God, I have no idea where the **** he will be.

But he will be with SOMEONE on another long-term deal. But not the Lakers.

[Knicks4life]

Talking about next season.

Amnesty Kobe, trade Gasol to a team with capspace like the Pacers or the Celtics next year, do the same with Bynum, trade him to Orlando or just not pick up his team option, use the stretch provision on Artest to waive him and half his cap hit.

That will give the Lakers the capspace to sign both Deron & Dwight.