Would an Andre Iguodala for Rudy Gay trade work for both teams?

[Wade County]

Interesting trade. Not a bad one by any means - would probably help both teams actually.

[hobojoe]

Originally Posted by kbdullah

The Grizzlies need a shooter to spread the floor for Zach and Mark. Iguodala wouldn't address that. I don't think it's coincidence that they played better last year w/ Battier even though he's a considerably lesser talent. Granger or Joe Johnson would be a better fit.

I definitely agree with that -- Granger or Johnson would be much better fits than Iguodala.

[HKF]

Terrible trade. Mike Conley needs to play better and Z-Bo and Arthur need to be healthy and the Grizz have a title contender. Conley can't be content to just dribble around aimlessly with no plan for 7 games at a time in the playoffs. If he was Aaron Brooks good, the Grizz might still be playing. They didn't lose because of Gay.

[BlakeJesus]

Iguodala can help address those issues indirectly, though. Conley dribbling the air out of the ball is bad for the offense, so having a high level ballhandler on the court with him would help keep everything flowing. It also, in theory, could mean there are more open deep shots for Conley (who is a career 38% shooter) because of Iggy's ability to create with the dribble drive.

You bring in backup guards who can shoot and you'll be alright. I agree it's not exactly ideal/traditional, but it's a potentially dangerous team.

[Dre]

The Grizzlies don't need any more defense, and not an extra ball handler at the expense of their only perimeter weapon who can put the ball on the floor and score or get to the line. When the defense clamps down and it's not Randolph it's Gay, if it's not Gay it's Randolph. Take one out and replace him with one more guy who can't shoot and doesn't get enough respect to live at the line as a slasher, and an above average offense looks worse.

Pros for the Grizzlies:
One more wing defender on a team that's already very good defensively and has Tony Allen
An extra ballhandler to offset your feeble, in over his head too often point guard (Hmm...)

The cons: You lose your only scorer on the wing.

When the 4th quarter hits in the playoffs defenses will take away the drive and if Randolph can't save them (which is still a question, because how good has he been since a time where he played better than he ever has) they're screwed. I mean so much for ball movement if only one person can shoot. Who is that helping

Like HKF said you should be looking more for a Conley replacement than Gay. It's a point guard's job to make a roster of skillset's like the Grizzlies' work on the wing, not a wing player who comes in to make him look more competent.

So defensively yes, it would be a nightmare, but they're already probably top tier and don't need to lose the only dynamic thing they have on the wing offensively.

Now yeah you can do Granger and Johnson all day because they can shoot and are just as good if not better overall defenders than Gay.

[HKF]

Granger doesn't get to the line enough and Joe is even more overpaid than Rudy is. This is the crazy thing, Rudy Gay is not the problem with Memphis. It's the backcourt. Conley would be better if he had even an ounce of aggressiveness. Dude is too passive.

[Dre]

Johnson helps them move the ball without sacrificing scoring and Granger is a different dynamic for their offense...plus if Tony Allen can rub off on him and get him back to the way he came into the league defending (Granger came into the league as a lunch pail player more than anything) then it could get ugly for opposition

But actually I do agree you don't have to trade Gay. People wanna hang their hat on that one run without Gay and they're gonna be mistaken if they make the wrong move.

[hroz]

Igodula doesnt give them that inside out game that was so effective last year, which i presume is what they would be looking for if they ship Gay.

Gasol
Randolph/Arthur
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Allen
Conley/?????

If the Griz can pick up a SF a combo wing and another PG or combo guard they would be well on their way.
Losing Vasquez was a big loss imo. As he never got replaced but in this league it should be easy to replace him with the many quality PGs around.

[hroz]

They will also be looking for salary cap relief presumably. Joe Johnson does not provide that but Granger does and he can spread the floor. Probably the one most likely for the Grizz.

[RollWithEm]

I really don't think Granger or Joe Johnson makes them a dynamic force at any one thing. Getting Iggy gives them this clear identity. Some people on this site undervalue that in this new super team era, but having arguably the two best perimeter defenders in basketball is one heckuva claim to fame. I like the Iguodala deal more for Memphis.

[MemphisX]

Originally Posted by HKF

Terrible trade. Mike Conley needs to play better and Z-Bo and Arthur need to be healthy and the Grizz have a title contender. Conley can't be content to just dribble around aimlessly with no plan for 7 games at a time in the playoffs. If he was Aaron Brooks good, the Grizz might still be playing. They didn't lose because of Gay.

Aaron Brooks good? Seriously?

[Bogg]

Originally Posted by MemphisX

Aaron Brooks good? Seriously?

Brooks' reputation is still living off that one season when they let him shoot 16 times a game

[Dre]

Originally Posted by RollWithEm

I really don't think Granger or Joe Johnson makes them a dynamic force at any one thing. Getting Iggy gives them this clear identity. Some people on this site undervalue that in this new super team era, but having arguably the two best perimeter defenders in basketball is one heckuva claim to fame. I like the Iguodala deal more for Memphis.

Two sides of the court, two sides of the court my man

And what I said was Granger's individual presence adds a different dynamic to the team with his 3 point shooting.

Him and Conley, Mayo, maybe someone else suddenly stretches the floor just that much more.

[hroz]

Now way Andre makes them better. When the Griz are attacking every team would collapse into the paint.

[AshJames]

I think the sixers would easily get the better end here. Gay is a proven force, and with evan turner and holiday would be scary!