Update: Steve Nash to Lakers for package of 1st rd picks

[Floods]

Originally Posted by hobojoe

They still need Dwight IMO.

No, Dwight would be a luxury but they certainly don't need him.

[Eternal]

Originally Posted by Ron

I am sure it will be fun to see Nash for the next couple of seasons, but I was kind of hoping for a tear-down now.

Well, I will keep an open mind, but losing four picks like that is really going to hurt us in the long run.

Why not try to win now as long as we have Kobe still? Doesn't make sense to let his last few years go to waste. I realize we have to rebuild sometime, but let that time wait until after we're done having a shot at winning it all.

[Ron]

Originally Posted by Jamel Irief

Very likely they draft players like Jordan Farmar, Sasha Vujacic, Devin Ebanks and Luke Walton with those picks. Sure they can be servicable role players, but they don't accelerate a rebuild and its not worth a chance at being probable favorites to win the West for the next two seasons.

Here's the good part for me on this deal...Ramon Sessions, you just ****ed yourself. Go to Toronto, that's what you get for opting out of your deal, idiot. Dream come true, my ass. Still can't believe he said that.

[Ron]

Originally Posted by Eternal

Why not try to win now as long as we have Kobe still? Doesn't make sense to let his last few years go to waste. I realize we have to rebuild sometime, but let that time wait until after we're done having a shot at winning it all.

Yeah, I am thinking that way too...my initial reaction was **** this, but I guess if we are going to keep Kobe might as well give it a one- or two-year shot...but still, we are in for a world of hurt sooner rather than later.

[King Sancho Fantastic]

It's not like we can't flip Pau for Beasley and Williams...

[Eternal]

Originally Posted by Floods

No, Dwight would be a luxury but they certainly don't need him.

We still need Dwight IMO. I still like the Heat over us if we were matched up in Finals. We'd have no one to stop Wade and Lebron driving to the lane on a consistent basis, unless Bynum magically starts giving it his all every play. Bynum usually will just coast out there most of the time and occasionally have good/great games.

This move puts us over the Thunder now. That series against them last season was almost a coin toss every game, we just had mental collapses at the end. Nash will change that and is a big upgrade over Sessions (at least in playoffs).

[Eternal]

Originally Posted by Ron

Yeah, I am thinking that way too...my initial reaction was **** this, but I guess if we are going to keep Kobe might as well give it a one- or two-year shot...but still, we are in for a world of hurt sooner rather than later.

Oh I agree completely. It's not going to be pretty once Kobe is done with.

[Ron]

Originally Posted by Eternal

We still need Dwight IMO. I still like the Heat over us if we were matched up in Finals. We'd have no one to stop Wade and Lebron driving to the lane on a consistent basis, unless Bynum magically starts giving it his all every play. Bynum usually will just coast out there most of the time and occasionally have good/great games.

This move puts us over the Thunder now. That series against them last season was almost a coin toss every game, we just had mental collapses at the end. Nash will change that and is a big upgrade over Sessions (at least in playoffs).

One-year rental? Give up Bynum for a one-year rental? Eternal, you do realize that the ****er WON'T EXTEND HERE, right?

Yeah, I agree Bynum coasts...I am hoping someone will get him straightened out at some time in the future.

[Jamel Irief]

Originally Posted by Ron

Yeah, I am thinking that way too...my initial reaction was **** this, but I guess if we are going to keep Kobe might as well give it a one- or two-year shot...but still, we are in for a world of hurt sooner rather than later.

The Lakers went from Showtime to Kobe-Shaq in 5 years while only missing the playoffs once. And they didn't have a 24 year old all-star center back then either.

[Diable]

You still need a quality back up. Nash isn't going to be effective if you play him heavy minutes. His minutes have been decreasing since 01-02 when he played 34.6 minutes. Last year he only played 31.6. So your 2nd string point will play more than normal.

[Eternal]

Originally Posted by Ron

One-year rental? Give up Bynum for a one-year rental? Eternal, you do realize that the ****er WON'T EXTEND HERE, right?

Yeah, I agree Bynum coasts...I am hoping someone will get him straightened out at some time in the future.

We need Dwight in terms of his defensive presence and improving us. I'm not saying we should get him though, as he seems to be a nut case just like Bynum, and seems consistent on wanting to go to Brooklyn. I was just saying I do not think we will be good enough to beat the Heat, unless everything clicks for us.

Bynum reminds me of a younger Lebron, as he just does some stupid stuff and has mental collapses when talking to the media. Hopefully he starts to get it like Lebron did this year. So in that sense he has the edge over Howard, as he will hopefully mature and start thinking straight. I just don't know if that will be soon enough, before Kobe and Nash are done.

I am eagerly awaiting to see what we get for Pau. I can't see us keeping him another year. We are not using him to his potential and seems like a waste for us to not trade him for something we could get more out of.

[MojoPin]

Originally Posted by Diable

You still need a quality back up. Nash isn't going to be effective if you play him heavy minutes. His minutes have been decreasing since 01-02 when he played 34.6 minutes. Last year he only played 31.6. So your 2nd string point will play more than normal.

Blake is good enough for ten or fifteen minutes. Anything more than that...

[MojoPin]

Nash will control the ball which means less idiotic turnovers like the ones you saw from Kobe during the OKC series. Best of all, he can consistently hit a shot! LAL has at least one guy now on the perimeter who you can count on to hit the open 3.

[Eternal]

Originally Posted by MojoPin

Nash will control the ball which means less idiotic turnovers like the ones you saw from Kobe during the OKC series. Best of all, he can consistently hit a shot! LAL has at least one guy now on the perimeter who you can count on to hit the open 3.

No more Blake in crunch time. I can't remember the last time we had a guy who would consistently hit the 3 for us.

[Floods]

Originally Posted by Eternal

We still need Dwight IMO. I still like the Heat over us if we were matched up in Finals. We'd have no one to stop Wade and Lebron driving to the lane on a consistent basis, unless Bynum magically starts giving it his all every play. Bynum usually will just coast out there most of the time and occasionally have good/great games.

This is just an outsider's perspective, but I think Bynum's moodiness is connected to Kobe's selfishness. A guy who's adept as Bynum is in the post should be getting a lot more than 13 shots a game. If you feel frozen out on offense, other parts of your game can slip as well. It's not right, it's not wrong, it just is. Nash can get him more shots, which will in turn lead to him a better all-around player.