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Old 07-07-2012, 01:06 AM   #46 (permalink)
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Re: TWITTER: Rockets Offer RFA Lin Deal; Poison Pill for NY to match

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Any team would be moronic not to match that offer for Lin for reasons completely unrelated to basketball. The amount of revenue that he is going to bring to that franchise by virtue of being Asian is staggering.

He's not that great of a player though. He's solid, but anyone who thinks he has an all star future ahead of him (in terms of impact, not chinese people voting him in) is a fool.

And that's actually my biggest problem with Lin. I like the kid. He seems humble and I am happy that he has been given a chance to show that he belongs in this league. But watching every single Asian fan blow him constantly, whether it be on this site or elsewhere, is ****ing obnoxious. I'm white, we don't have a lot of superstars in this league, but you don't see me fawning over every single white dude that can play just because he's white. With Yao I tolerated it because Yao was actually a franchise player when healthy, but Lin is an average to slightly above average starter and will be for the rest of his career. But he probably won't miss an all star game for the next 10 years and I'm going to be stuck hearing about how incredible he is the entire time.
I think a lot of people were quick to jump on the Lin bandwagon because he immediately turned the Knicks into a winning team while putting up Derek Rose numbers. (This was without Amare and Melo)
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Old 07-07-2012, 01:11 AM   #47 (permalink)
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I think a lot of people were quick to jump on the Lin bandwagon because he immediately turned the Knicks into a winning team while putting up Derek Rose numbers. (This was without Amare and Melo)
He put up numbers because no one had scouted him yet and he was playing in a point guard's wet dream of a system. I commend him for saving the Knicks' season, that was awesome to watch, but he's not a great player. He's a pretty good player that capitalized on unsuspecting opponents while running an offense that is literally built for a player with his skill set. When he averages 15/7 next year I'll go ahead and bump this thread.
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He put up numbers because no one had scouted him yet and he was playing in a point guard's wet dream of a system. I commend him for saving the Knicks' season, that was awesome to watch, but he's not a great player. He's a pretty good player that capitalized on unsuspecting opponents while running an offense that is literally built for a player with his skill set. When he averages 15/7 next year I'll go ahead and bump this thread.
Who said he'll average more than 15 and 7?
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Old 07-07-2012, 01:17 AM   #49 (permalink)
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Who said he'll average more than 15 and 7?
Stupid people?
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Like who though? I haven't seen anyone around here saying stuff like that.
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Re: TWITTER: Rockets Offer RFA Lin Deal; Poison Pill for NY to match

Lin is about to make a lot more than he will ever be worth in my opinion.
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Re: TWITTER: Rockets Offer RFA Lin Deal; Poison Pill for NY to match

LOL I haven't encountered anyone who thinks Lin will be better than a 15 and 7 player next year and damn sure not on this site so forget the bump.
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Re: TWITTER: Rockets Offer RFA Lin Deal; Poison Pill for NY to match

Lin won't average 10 points this year.
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Re: TWITTER: Rockets Offer RFA Lin Deal; Poison Pill for NY to match

Lin has the ability to put up numbers. He showed that he can put up numbers. He didn't show us that he can put up efficient numbers. There is a big difference between one and the other. The opinions on him are too extreme in both directions. What he did last year was not an illusion, the guy can play a role on a team. He needs to work on his game and cut back on the turnovers. He isn't some sort of superstar player and at the point guard position he's probably just about average all things considered.
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Re: TWITTER: Rockets Offer RFA Lin Deal; Poison Pill for NY to match

he's more like a 14 and 5 kinda guy. Which is not bad honestly.

He went on a historic tear though. Nobody can deny how great he was for those 10 games or so.
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Re: TWITTER: Rockets Offer RFA Lin Deal; Poison Pill for NY to match

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Any team would be moronic not to match that offer for Lin for reasons completely unrelated to basketball. The amount of revenue that he is going to bring to that franchise by virtue of being Asian is staggering.

He's not that great of a player though. He's solid, but anyone who thinks he has an all star future ahead of him (in terms of impact, not chinese people voting him in) is a fool.

And that's actually my biggest problem with Lin. I like the kid. He seems humble and I am happy that he has been given a chance to show that he belongs in this league. But watching every single Asian fan blow him constantly, whether it be on this site or elsewhere, is ****ing obnoxious. I'm white, we don't have a lot of superstars in this league, but you don't see me fawning over every single white dude that can play just because he's white. With Yao I tolerated it because Yao was actually a franchise player when healthy, but Lin is an average to slightly above average starter and will be for the rest of his career. But he probably won't miss an all star game for the next 10 years and I'm going to be stuck hearing about how incredible he is the entire time.
at least the nba used to have a ton of great white players. nba is mostly dominated by blacks but there have been a ton of HOF'ers who are white. how many great asian players have there been in the nba? just yao ming? if you can even call him great.

jeremy lin is so popular among asian fans because he's the anti-asian stereotype. people always think asians are not athletic enough to play in the nba and jlin is proving them wrong. yao ming was not the same because people often thought he was good because "he was just tall" and "if he were 6'9 he wouldn't be anything special". he was often seen as very slow, plodding, and not very athletic. if you were a minority ethnic group and saw your own kind succeed you would be excited too. what you said was ignorant.
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Old 07-08-2012, 12:27 AM   #57 (permalink)
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he's more like a 14 and 5 kinda guy. Which is not bad honestly.

He went on a historic tear though. Nobody can deny how great he was for those 10 games or so.
he averaged 14.6 and 6.2 his first real season in the nba. you don't think he's going to improve? ridiculous.

FYI, his stats with mike woodson were solid. even as he was slowing down because of his knee injury, he was still dropping 18ppg 6apg. haters gonna hate.

i am willing to be that stupid person. i say jeremy lin will average more than 15/7. i'm not afraid to make predictions.
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Yeah I'm Chinese and I was excited as hell about Jeremy Lin. Tried to watch every Knicks game during the Linsanity and when I couldn't I followed the boxscores on my phone.

I don't see how that was being obnoxious. Get over yourself man.
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at least the nba used to have a ton of great white players. nba is mostly dominated by blacks but there have been a ton of HOF'ers who are white. how many great asian players have there been in the nba? just yao ming? if you can even call him great.

jeremy lin is so popular among asian fans because he's the anti-asian stereotype. people always think asians are not athletic enough to play in the nba and jlin is proving them wrong. yao ming was not the same because people often thought he was good because "he was just tall" and "if he were 6'9 he wouldn't be anything special". he was often seen as very slow, plodding, and not very athletic. if you were a minority ethnic group and saw your own kind succeed you would be excited too. what you said was ignorant.
I don't give a damn about how many great white players there have been in the past. That's the entire crux of my argument. You realize that you're talking to the same Caucasian that dislikes the greatest white player ever, (Bird) constantly harps on the best white players today, (Love and Griffin) and refers to both of them as overrated players, right?

And I have no problem with Asian people liking Jeremy Lin. I have never said anything to the contrary. I do, however, have a problem with people overrating a player based on his race. If anything, you're ignorant for specifically liking a player due to his race. And there are plenty of Asians (including some on this site) that do not overrate Lin, but anyone who believes that he is a star in this league is either ignorant or does not understand basketball. He's mediocre. Sorry.
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I don't give a damn about how many great white players there have been in the past. That's the entire crux of my argument. You realize that you're talking to the same Caucasian that dislikes the greatest white player ever, (Bird) constantly harps on the best white players today, (Love and Griffin) and refers to both of them as overrated players, right?

And I have no problem with Asian people liking Jeremy Lin. I have never said anything to the contrary. I do, however, have a problem with people overrating a player based on his race. If anything, you're ignorant for specifically liking a player due to his race. And there are plenty of Asians (including some on this site) that do not overrate Lin, but anyone who believes that he is a star in this league is either ignorant or does not understand basketball. He's mediocre. Sorry.
again, you are ignorant because you have no idea what it feels to be a minority. you're white! you don't need to give a damn if a white athlete is good or overrated because you get more than a handful of elite white athletes in every sport.

a lot of asians get excited about jeremy lin because he's the first of his kind. and there's a difference in hoping that he becomes a elite player than thinking he already is one. most fans know at this point that he is a good player in the nba that is capable of starting on a good team in the nba. nobody is expecting him to make a franchise player impact in the game at this point.

and again with the ignorance. he is not mediocre. he is pretty good. just not superstar good.
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