TWITTER: Lin officially to Houston Rockets; Knicks Decline to Match Offer

[Luke]

Originally Posted by R-Star

I've gone on record as saying I don't think Lin is anything more than an average starter who's good offensively but one of the worst turn over PG's I've seen in a long time. Hes not a star, he's not a superstar. Hes a very good offensive PG though.

You talk him down like he's garbage for a few posts in here and then all of the sudden back off that and talk about him like hes an average starting caliber point guard, which I'm pretty sure is all anyone is arguing.

When did I say anything other than he's a mediocre/average starting point guard in this league? You're putting words in my mouth and arguing against yourself. Reading comprehension is key.

[Luke]

Originally Posted by Jamel Irief

Yeah you didn't answer my question. I said NBA players. Do you post about college basketball period?

And I'm the archivist, not the searchologist. If I don't remember you saying it I won't hunt for it.

I guess we'll have to wait a few years until the Royal/Parker/Scott trio dominate the league and win every award for the next ten years!

[Luke]

Originally Posted by Adam

The Miami game was only days after Carmelo came back. Lin's role in the Knicks offense changed once Carmelo came back. Miami destroyed Lin, but that's Miami and that's one game. Extrapolating that to anything else is a reach.

Extrapolating? We're not only talking about one game here. We're talking about the game that NBA defenses began to recognize Lin's skill set, and his strengths/weaknesses. Why does his production, quite literally, fall off of a cliff after this game? Maybe because he was scouted. Or maybe he just got tired of putting up 24/10, I'm not quite sure.

[Adam]

Originally Posted by Luke

Extrapolating? We're not only talking about one game here. We're talking about the game that NBA defenses began to recognize Lin's skill set, and his strengths/weaknesses. Why does his production, quite literally, fall off of a cliff after this game? Maybe because he was scouted. Or maybe he just got tired of putting up 24/10, I'm not quite sure.

His production declines because during that period he goes from the #1 option to a #2 behind a bad team player. His numbers aren't even as bad as you're making out considering the circumstances.

[Da Grinch]

People forget when they talk about Lin it was 1st time of extended playing time at the nba level so there is naturally going to be some give and take in finding what he can and cant get away with as well as with scouting .

my take is he is a good guard , not really a point guard, more like Harden who is a scoring guard who is really good with pick and roll plays ...sort of a tweener but the good kind the kind that can do both guard spots well enough .

he has a really good head on his shoulders but his handle needs tightening up , he doesn't have a true pg's ability to dribble the ball, it was exploited in the heat game but its next to impossible to replicate level of dominance the heat had against him . between chalmers and cole all they had to do is pressure the ball , they dont have traditional pg duties and they are very good defenders, with excellent help defenders planking them , no team is going to have their pg's expend that much energy if they have to run the offense on the other end.

under normal circumstances he's probably in the neighborhood of a 16 and 8 guy with ok defense at pg and decent %'s , thats pretty good for a 24 yr old with limited experience and puts him in the top 10-12 point guards in the league easy.

he's worth the money.

he has time to work on his deficiencies or at least learn how to marginalize them

[British_Baller]

Meh Lin will fade away to average.... Great fit for both the Rockets or Knicks then!

It's like tramps fighting over a discarded hot dog.

[R-Star]

Originally Posted by Da Grinch

People forget when they talk about Lin it was 1st time of extended playing time at the nba level so there is naturally going to be some give and take in finding what he can and cant get away with as well as with scouting .

my take is he is a good guard , not really a point guard, more like Harden who is a scoring guard who is really good with pick and roll plays ...sort of a tweener but the good kind the kind that can do both guard spots well enough .

he has a really good head on his shoulders but his handle needs tightening up , he doesn't have a true pg's ability to dribble the ball, it was exploited in the heat game but its next to impossible to replicate level of dominance the heat had against him . between chalmers and cole all they had to do is pressure the ball , they dont have traditional pg duties and they are very good defenders, with excellent help defenders planking them , no team is going to have their pg's expend that much energy if they have to run the offense on the other end.

under normal circumstances he's probably in the neighborhood of a 16 and 8 guy with ok defense at pg and decent %'s , thats pretty good for a 24 yr old with limited experience and puts him in the top 10-12 point guards in the league easy.

he's worth the money.

he has time to work on his deficiencies or at least learn how to marginalize them

Spot on comparison I'd say.

[Diable]

Apparently the Rockets made this a poison horse pill according to this guy. Say what you want about Lin, but you can't deny that his luck is good. Everything has fallen together perfectly for this guy. If the Knicks match this contract is going to make them pay through the nose in luxury tax.

Howard Beck ‏@HowardBeckNYT

Original offer to Lin had 3rd-year bump to $9.3 mil (and 4th-year opt for $9.3m). This one gives NY more to think about with $14.9m in Yr 3.

[ChosenFEW]

Adios linsanity!!


Hopefully Knicks let him walk. First deal was alright. This new one screams heck no!

[Jamel Irief]

Nobody has pointed out the irony in the fact that Houston cut him last year?

[rocketeer]

Originally Posted by Jamel Irief

Nobody has pointed out the irony in the fact that Houston cut him last year?

there is no irony here. the rockets had two better players at his position and lin would have only seen game action when lowry was hurt.

[Jamel Irief]

Originally Posted by rocketeer

there is no irony here. the rockets had two better players at his position and lin would have only seen game action when lowry was hurt.

Is it unusual to have 3 point guards?

You can't tell me the rockets didn't wish they kept him.

[Dissonance]

Marc J. Spears
Jeremy Lin appears close to being a Houston Rocket with Raymond Felton to NY deal close to being done, sources tell Y!

@SpearsNBAYahoo

[Damian Necronamous]

LOL! Enjoy paying Omer Asik and Jeremy Lin $28M combined in a couple years...that should be fun! Lin meant a lot more for New York than he will for Houston.

Probably a smart basketball move for the Knicks, but is it a smart business move to let Lin walk? Probably not. The dude screams MONEY for the Knicks.

[R-Star]

Originally Posted by Damian Necronamous

LOL! Enjoy paying Omer Asik and Jeremy Lin $28M combined in a couple years...that should be fun! Lin meant a lot more for New York than he will for Houston.

Probably a smart basketball move for the Knicks, but is it a smart business move to let Lin walk? Probably not. The dude screams MONEY for the Knicks.

Lin isn't going to be any less Asian playing for Houston than he was in New York.

I know Yao Ming had a hard time finding a fanbase with the Rockets.


As far as Asik, his expensive deal turns into an asset on the final year where you can trade him as an expiring to someone looking clear up cap space.