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**Luke** · 07-06-2012, 11:50 PM

I was in the middle of a four hour drive today and I was leafing through Bill Simmons "The Book of Basketball". I've read the book before, but he had an idea that never caught my eye until today.

What if we gave every lottery team equal chance in the lottery? That would single handily eliminate tanking and would put the college studs in a position were they could potentially join a good team right away instead of spending their first years on a bottom feeder. I think it's an interesting idea to say the least. Obviously it would never happen, but it's fun to speculate.

What say you?

**R-Star** · 07-06-2012, 11:55 PM

Were you the one driving?

bircan · 07-07-2012, 01:19 AM

Assuming a bus trip? Driving and reading don't tend to mix well haha.

I think Stern answered this very question on NBA.com in the video clips. Have a look at that, but I think Charles brought this notion up and Stern was saying how it would be too much of an imbalance if the teams who just missed the playoffs were to land top picks, which is fair IMO.

Maybe you could go back to what they had in 1993, 1st seed 16.7%, reducing to 9% for 6th seed. Granted there were only 11 teams in the lottery then, you could spread the odds out a bit more. Stern also talks how Orlando won the 1993 draft despite having the worst odds (@ 1.5%)...

**Luke** · 07-07-2012, 01:27 AM

My brother was actually driving. I was just trying to pass time.

The biggest problem with this idea would be the stupid conspiracy theorists that would flip a shit every time a big market benefited from the system. Outside of that, I think it actually makes the whole lottery experience a whole lot more interesting.

l0st1 · 07-07-2012, 11:35 AM

Really not fair to those legitimately shitty teams that "earned" a top pick if the #13 team who just missed the playoffs won the lottery. The way it is now is probably the best way to keep it "fair"

chilltown · 07-07-2012, 11:40 AM

I like it. Because my team is so eager to compete for 9 seeds every year.

hobojoe · 07-07-2012, 11:43 AM

I don't like it. To me, it just moves the tanking to teams in the 7-10 seed range in each conference. Why go all out at the end of the year just to take a first round beating when you have a decent shot to wind up a with a franchise changing player if you miss the playoffs?

**BlakeJesus** · 07-07-2012, 12:05 PM

I'd be for it. I think teams like the Rockets should be rewarded moreso than a biblically bad team like the Bobcats (who didn't win the lotto as is anyways).

**Dissonance** · 07-07-2012, 12:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by chilltown

I like it. Because my team is so eager to compete for 9 seeds every year.

13 or 14.

I wish they'd play for 9.

**Ron** · 07-07-2012, 12:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Luke

My brother was actually driving. I was just trying to pass time.

The biggest problem with this idea would be the stupid conspiracy theorists that would flip a shit every time a big market benefited from the system. Outside of that, I think it actually makes the whole lottery experience a whole lot more interesting.

Without commenting on the veracity of the idea, I couldn't care less for the stupid ****s who can't grasp simple mathematical concepts. Engaging them in conversation is an absolute waste of time.

**King Sancho Fantastic** · 07-07-2012, 01:01 PM

What about the 50 win teams who miss the playoffs in the West vs the 40 win teams who make the playoffs in the East?

goodfoot · 07-07-2012, 01:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by hobojoe

I don't like it. To me, it just moves the tanking to teams in the 7-10 seed range in each conference. Why go all out at the end of the year just to take a first round beating when you have a decent shot to wind up a with a franchise changing player if you miss the playoffs?

I thought it was a great idea till you mentioned this. It would suck to have teams tanking out of the playoffs.

**BlakeJesus** · 07-07-2012, 01:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by King Sancho Fantastic

What about the 50 win teams who miss the playoffs in the West vs the 40 win teams who make the playoffs in the East?

What about it? They made the playoffs, that's basically the entire point of the regular season isn't it? Some team catches a few breaks like the 76ers did and boom, that just generated a ton of cash/press for your organization. Can't make it on a run if you don't make it in the playoffs first.

**Jamel Irief** · 07-07-2012, 02:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dissonance

13 or 14.

I wish they'd play for 9.

The Rockets are worse off http://www.basketballforum.com/houst...tery-team.html

chilltown · 07-07-2012, 03:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dissonance

13 or 14.

I wish they'd play for 9.

9 SEED. haha

9 seed = 13 or 14 most times.

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bircan 6th Man Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Melbourne, Australia Posts: 476 Rep Power: 313902	Re: Here's a crazy idea Assuming a bus trip? Driving and reading don't tend to mix well haha. I think Stern answered this very question on NBA.com in the video clips. Have a look at that, but I think Charles brought this notion up and Stern was saying how it would be too much of an imbalance if the teams who just missed the playoffs were to land top picks, which is fair IMO. Maybe you could go back to what they had in 1993, 1st seed 16.7%, reducing to 9% for 6th seed. Granted there were only 11 teams in the lottery then, you could spread the odds out a bit more. Stern also talks how Orlando won the 1993 draft despite having the worst odds (@ 1.5%)...

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Luke Go Dawgs Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Atlanta, GA Posts: 11,904 Rep Power: 4300832	Re: Here's a crazy idea My brother was actually driving. I was just trying to pass time. The biggest problem with this idea would be the stupid conspiracy theorists that would flip a shit every time a big market benefited from the system. Outside of that, I think it actually makes the whole lottery experience a whole lot more interesting. __________________ Formerly VanillaPrice

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l0st1 Veteran Join Date: Jul 2010 Posts: 2,119 Rep Power: 953893	Really not fair to those legitimately shitty teams that "earned" a top pick if the #13 team who just missed the playoffs won the lottery. The way it is now is probably the best way to keep it "fair"

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