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Old 08-04-2012, 08:26 AM   #1 (permalink)
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Camelo Anthony - Hall of Fame chances?

This is something that may have felt if not crazy like a very long shot as recently as early this summer. At this point I feel like we need to start looking at the building international resume of Carmelo Anthony and ask ourselves - if he has a long and productive NBA career, mayyyyybe wins a title as a non-alpha player... Is he a Hall of Famer when you add in his play for the national team?

At one point you could have said "too small of a sample size." However...

2002 - 15.6ppg in 22mpg, best player for the junior national team that took bronze at world qualifiers.
2004 - Olympic basketball participant after his rookie NBA season.
2006 - Already acknowledged as a leader in international play, co-captain for a VERY young USA Team, bronze at worlds.
---Sets US National Team scoring record, 35 points
2008 - Key player and leader for Olympic gold medal squad, huge semifinal game helped put away Argentina.
2012 - Key player and leader now for a team that could win another gold.
---Re-sets US National Team scoring record, 37 points in 14 absurd minutes

If this squad wins gold Melo will have 2 gold medals in Olympic play to his credit, along with a Bronze, and the only thing missing from his resume will be a World Championship - which he could choose to go for in two years. He's still young enough to make a run at another gold medal in 2016. Lets say he gets a World Championship, and USA Basketball wins gold this year and in 2016 with him on the roster. He'll have 3 Olympic Golds, and a World Championship - while playing a huge role as a team captain, and contributor.

Hall of Fame? Even if his NBA career seems only barely worthy of consideration?
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Old 08-04-2012, 02:22 PM   #2 (permalink)
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Re: Camelo Anthony - Hall of Fame chances?

His highest NBA individual achievement aside from the popularity contest that is the All-Star game, is an NBA Second team and 4 NBA Third teams and a Rookie Challenge MVP. So despite being perhaps the greatest US International player, hes got to do a lot more. If he could get an MVP, a ring, and a scoring title, at some point down the road he could slip in if his production holds tight for 6 more years. The only reason I say scoring title is for a guy who is one of the best hired guns in the league, and known strictly for his offensive performance, he has yet to lead the league in scoring.

His college year was legendary.
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It's a basketball HOF so it has lower standards.
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Re: Camelo Anthony - Hall of Fame chances?

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His highest NBA individual achievement aside from the popularity contest that is the All-Star game, is an NBA Second team and 4 NBA Third teams and a Rookie Challenge MVP. So despite being perhaps the greatest US International player, hes got to do a lot more. If he could get an MVP, a ring, and a scoring title, at some point down the road he could slip in if his production holds tight for 6 more years. The only reason I say scoring title is for a guy who is one of the best hired guns in the league, and known strictly for his offensive performance, he has yet to lead the league in scoring.

His college year was legendary.
An MVP or a ring (not both and a scoring title) would make Carmelo a surefire Hall of Famer.
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Re: Camelo Anthony - Hall of Fame chances?

An MVP would go the farthest and would probably put him in, but I don't think one ring does it.
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His highest NBA individual achievement aside from the popularity contest that is the All-Star game, is an NBA Second team and 4 NBA Third teams and a Rookie Challenge MVP. So despite being perhaps the greatest US International player, hes got to do a lot more. If he could get an MVP, a ring, and a scoring title, at some point down the road he could slip in if his production holds tight for 6 more years. The only reason I say scoring title is for a guy who is one of the best hired guns in the league, and known strictly for his offensive performance, he has yet to lead the league in scoring.

His college year was legendary.
The greatest US international player? LOL. He was great in the World Championships in Japan, mediocre in the Olympics in Beijing, and I suppose he's pretty good but nowhere near the best player on the team in London.
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Re: Camelo Anthony - Hall of Fame chances?

There's no chance he never gets in. There's little chance he's not first ballot.

I will say he's lucky he won that college title cause otherwise the perception of him would be waaay worse.
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Re: Camelo Anthony - Hall of Fame chances?

Reggie Miller is in, albeit largely on longevity. Hard to say that Dumars is better than Melo, even though I like Joe a ton as a player. As much as I think that Melo is overrated he's a lot better than Reggie. He is quite similar to Adrian Dantley as a player and AD did have to wait awhile. If you judge Melo against the lowest tiers of inducted players it's hard to not see him getting in.
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The greatest US international player? LOL. He was great in the World Championships in Japan, mediocre in the Olympics in Beijing, and I suppose he's pretty good but nowhere near the best player on the team in London.
You can laugh if you want, but I can't find another player that has scored more points wearing a USA Basketball uni (904 points for a 15.3 average). I also can't find a player that has worn the USA basketball uni more than Melo (59 games.) The stat could be out there, and if you find it you can prove me wrong, but I'm not going to work any harder to prove myself wrong.

LeBron is a superior player, Carmelo plays better in the USA uniform.
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Carmelo is the perfect 4 for international ball

I said he was the best player in world play back in 08 and no one agreed.
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Re: Camelo Anthony - Hall of Fame chances?

I'm going with Carmelo has the same chance as Allen Houston getting into the HOF
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I'm a huge Houston fan since I like any SG who makes a career out of shooting 3's, but come on. Melo is the better player.
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Re: Camelo Anthony - Hall of Fame chances?

But does Melo have a rule named after him? Houston's contact is the reason why they created amnesty in the first place.
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You can laugh if you want, but I can't find another player that has scored more points wearing a USA Basketball uni (904 points for a 15.3 average). I also can't find a player that has worn the USA basketball uni more than Melo (59 games.) The stat could be out there, and if you find it you can prove me wrong, but I'm not going to work any harder to prove myself wrong.

LeBron is a superior player, Carmelo plays better in the USA uniform.
He was the starter who played the fewest minutes and had one of the lowest FG% and was pretty mediocre in Beijing. He has one role, shoot and score, and he didn't even lead the team in scoring or do it as efficiently as several other players. He's not the best anything, never has and never will be. Calling him the best is flat wrong.
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