Greatest players of all time (Number 7)

[Wilt_The_Stilt]

Shaq was outrebounded but he was still the only player who came close to showing up. 26 and 10 on 63%fg. Kobe was terrible.

[e-monk]

Originally Posted by Wilt_The_Stilt

Shaq was outrebounded but he was still the only player who came close to showing up. 26 and 10 on 63%fg. Kobe was terrible.

when he got up the court but he was regulary beaten to both ends and was gassed half the time - Kobe did his solo act in games one and two and they went 1-1, PJ reined him in and he pretty much stopped being a factor nd the Lakers dropped 3 straight

[Wilt_The_Stilt]

He wasn't reigned in. He kept chucking. Only difference is that for 1 game he actually made some of his shots. Shaq couldn't do it alone.

[e-monk]

Originally Posted by Wilt_The_Stilt

He wasn't reigned in. He kept chucking. Only difference is that for 1 game he actually made some of his shots. Shaq couldn't do it alone.

that's totally accurate except for the part where he took 13 shots in game 3 and the Lakers scored 68 points and lost by 20 - in the last 2 games he did take more shots but no one else showed up - what you seem to be forgetting is that the Pistons single covered Shaq with Wallace most of the series and threw the kitchen sink at Kobe and Shaq was in good enough condition to take advantage (he had a couple big games true but not big enough), and then Malone got hurt and Payton went awol

and ultimately the question was worst performance in finals history which as I said was overstated

[OneBadLT123]

Shaq or Hakeem for me in any order between the two honestly.

[Wilt_The_Stilt]

You are trying to link Kobe's shot attempts with the one game they won. But he was still jacking shots when they lost. He didn't shoot a lot in game 3 but nobody did. It was a blowout. The problem was that he was missing shots.

Shaq played much better than Kobe in that series. Suggesting otherwise is just not true. And whether or not Kobe had the worst series, it was terrible.

[ChrisWoj]

Why are the same people that discount Shaq's loss to Hakeem in `94 pimping Hakeem's loss to the Celtics in the `80s?

Additionally: Who would I rather have take the final shot of the night? Hakeem. Easily.

Who would I rather have for the entire ****ing game? SHAQ.

[ChrisWoj]

Oh - and whoever is voting Oscar has no clue. He has all of the insane temperamental issues Shaq had, and wasn't as dominant a title winning physical specimen. He was awesome - but c'mon.

[hroz]

Originally Posted by ChrisWoj

Why are the same people that discount Shaq's loss to Hakeem in `94 pimping Hakeem's loss to the Celtics in the `80s?

Additionally: Who would I rather have take the final shot of the night? Hakeem. Easily.

Who would I rather have for the entire ****ing game? SHAQ.

I never discounted Shaq's achievement in 94. I am just saying Hakeem had just as impressive if not a more impressive achievement in 86.
Taking out the Lakers in 5 games.

Why would you prefer to have Shaq?
No doubt Shaq was the better offensive weapon but defensively you have to go with Hakeem surely.

I will admit if playing a poor centre I would take Shaq he can score easily and not have to worry about defense.

But against a quality centre (Kareem - Wilt - Russell - Ewing - D Rob) I would want Hakeem. He is less likely to make them hurt you back whether thats through ball denial or post defense.

[23AJ]

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