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Old 08-16-2012, 06:00 PM   #16 (permalink)
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I feel like any top tier player could've played in any era and been about the same. The production would've been different, but their ultimate standing wouldn't be.

The whole crossing era things relates to the closer to average players. Those are the ones where we'd have to wonder how they translate

And that avatar is for my new sim...in that he's averaging 25 and 14
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I don't care how he would have faired in the modern era. That block was ridiculous for a guy that age.
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Old 08-16-2012, 06:42 PM   #18 (permalink)
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Which was my point but nothing here can ever not turn into something like what it's turning into
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yeah but think how boring threads full of self congratulatory high fives and 'right you are, my man!' would get
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I mean every so often it's cool to me. Everything doesn't have to be "he's alright but XXX is better" or some shit like that. That's crab shit to me. You wouldn't do that anywhere else in life...at someone's grad party like "wow, you did it man...6 years but it only took me 4"
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Yeah, that's because they're different types of athletes. At 36, Javale McGee could definitely be that athletic.
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Yeah, that's because they're different types of athletes. At 36, Javale McGee could definitely be that athletic.
at age 36 after a a cataclysmic knee injury (and 1960s surgery)? doubtful and he sure as hell wouldnt be doing that weighing 315 lbs and capable of benching a school bus
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It's not even about 100. Some people in this very thread are saying he wouldn't be a top tier player in the modern era
Some idiot in one of those polls said he'd be JaVale McGee. Laughable.
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Just a little snippet for people who act like he was just a big guy who bullied midgets..I've seen people say he'd be an 18 ppg scorer if he were in the league...Shaq couldn't even get up like that at 36...
One of the videos shows a dunk where he's not contested at all. His head is at the bottom of the net, not at the rim.

The problem with Wilt is you get all of these Paul Bunyon stories about what he could do, and then you see 2 rings, 2 losses in the Finals in which his team was pretty much a gimme by anyone picking before hand.
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Dre, WITH that said, anyone saying Wilt would average 18 PPG today is suffering from a lack of oxygen to the brain.

When you get athletic freaks like Wilt, Kareem, Jordan, Robinson, O'neal and Lebron, I'm not big on this idea that "oh, because there are athletes like Joakim Noah (LMAO) down low, Wilt wouldn't do anything today."

Now, would he still do what he did in 61? No. I will say that 65ish (whenever you had all those centers come in at once - I believe Reed, Bellamy, etc. too lazy to look), things probably got a lot harder in the only real way they have. I mean, before that, his opposition was literally Russell and NO ONE at center. You look at 65 when he's still 28 and his scoring shoots down to around what I feel it would have been today.

That said, that wouldn't make his winning problems better today. 69 and 70 were just inexcusable. But Wilt would still be top 10-15 in any era. I don't care how athletic uber athletes like Luol Deng become lol.
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Hoodey, only you could bring up Jaokim Noah and Luol Deng in a thread about Wilt Chamberlain, impressive.
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Hoodey, only you could bring up Jaokim Noah and Luol Deng in a thread about Wilt Chamberlain, impressive.
You beat me to it.
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I just find it funny that Munro can argue Jordan would have a harder time with the 2007 Spurs while writing off the 87 Celtics and other defenses he faced.

I love the Bulls. I want a few moves, but I'd love to see this team take off around Derrick Rose.

With that said, Michael Jordan would absolutely destroy the 07 Bulls, 11 Bulls, next years Bulls and any team in between.

The 07 Bulls, a top team in the league defensively, did it with headline acts like Kirk Hirnich and Luol Deng? And that athleticism would stop MJ or Wilt? Joakim Noah? LOL. Yeah, Jordan once send Ewing flying like a helicopter on a dunk off of a steal, but Joakim Noah would get in peoples' way - whether it be MJ or Wilt.

I guess I've watched my own team excel, and I don't see one guy on the team other than Rose who is the athlete that Michael, Scottie OR Horace were.
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One of the videos shows a dunk where he's not contested at all. His head is at the bottom of the net, not at the rim.

The problem with Wilt is you get all of these Paul Bunyon stories about what he could do, and then you see 2 rings, 2 losses in the Finals in which his team was pretty much a gimme by anyone picking before hand.
did you see the block in the second video? in that one his 36 year old head was definitely at the rim

and btw Im sorry but you're wrong about the Lakers being favorites to the knicks or celtics in those series let alone gimmes

against the Knicks Wilt was returning from a knee injury that had him out in all but 12 regular season games - hell we give Mike a pass in 95 but he played in 17 regular season games and unlike Wilt's circumstances those were at all at the end of the season and Mike was perfectly healthy and he didnt even get to the finals that year - and while we're at it Baylor was 33 and injured a large portion of the season and wound up missing 30 games and never fully recovered (as in Ever he played in 11 games over the course of the next 2 seasons before retiring)

the Celtics series(also not a 'gimme' series) went to game 7 and was neck and neck down to the wire - Wilt wasnt in the game the last 5 minutes because the coach was an idiot - the coach was subsequently fired

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I don't question that Wilt was a freak athlete. But I do question the size and athletic ability of his competition. I think there is more of it these days. Not that he would be shut down but he wouldn't dominate to the same extent.

Obviously his numbers would go down just due to the style of play, but I'm curious what kind of numbers Wilt fans think he would put up these days?
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