David Stern cracking down on pregame routines

[BlakeJesus]

Originally Posted by kbdullah

Wouldn't it be easier to just move player introductions earlier, so that there was more time between introductions and the scheduled start? Or maybe that would be an awkward silence for teams that don't have extended rituals.

If 95% of the league had an extended ritual like that this would make way more sense, but otherwise you're basically just encouraging the rituals (encouraging those who have them, and basically encouraging those who don't to create one because now they have a set aside time to do them) which is the opposite of what they want.

I don't have an issue with the spectacles, but I don't really feel an attachment to them either.

[Geaux Tigers]

Why not let the spoiled prima donnas slap hands and dance around and self promote but make them play defense again Mr. Stern.

[Bogg]

Eh, it's not going to have much of an effect on the time a game ends because it's a limit on the time between the end of player introductions and the time of tip-off. You're talking two to three minutes at most. If they set some limit on the time between scheduled tip-off and the actual tip-off it might be appreciable. I don't really have a problem with telling everyone to get to half-court in a timely fashion, though.

[Dre]

I just feel like you all are being sticklers and exaggerating this whole thing way too much. The whole everyone dapping/KG beating his chest/LeBron getting powder thing takes like 45 seconds at most. It's not those things that make you feel like you never know when tipoff will occur, there's other stuff that goes on before a game.

My thing is moreso than thinking they're trying to make things look more professional they're just being petty. It's just like...why? It's nothing disrespectful, if anything it helps get the fans more into the proceedings then some big ball of fur with a t-shirt gun...I don't understand how it was even a substantial enough issue to where it became a topic of discussion.

I kind of hate that I never know when tipoff will start myself, but LeBron not being able to chalk isn't going to change that. The commentators will **** around and have 2-3 segments before tipoff, that's not the fault of a 30 second routine.

If you recall the finals, they do the introductions, go to commercial and then they're ready to tip when they come back. That 3-4 minutes is not all pregame routine space, coaches are talking, the court is being cleared etc. It's not a big deal though, just seems rather petty.

And once again I don't think this is as airtight as you being able to say you abide by your companies policies and that's that, because we're not professional athletes, they play by a whole different set of rules.

[rocketeer]

Originally Posted by Dre

if anything it helps get the fans more into the proceedings then some big ball of fur with a t-shirt gun

no way dude. nothing gets fans more excited than a t shirt gun.

[Jamel Irief]

Originally Posted by Dre

And once again I don't think this is as airtight as you being able to say you abide by your companies policies and that's that, because we're not professional athletes, they play by a whole different set of rules.

Yeah David sterns rules, and they will abide just like they did the dress code.

We get it, you don't think nba players have to have petty rules because they jump high. Stern has his job for a reason, and if you want your full paycheck you'll be haste in your chalk throwing.

If dre was a nba player he would be branded uncoachable.

[Jace]

So since Stern has his job, he's absolutely infallible in every decision he makes 28 years later?

Originally Posted by Porn Player

Good. I'm sick of staying up for a game that is meant to tip off at a certain time, only to have to wait another 20 minutes until I see some actual basketball.

If a game is slated for 7:00pm, then that's the time it should tip off.

Ummm...pregame routines don't add 20 minutes to a game. That has nothing to do with the players.

If Stern has an issue with the length of games, perhaps he can mandate that 20 second timeouts last, I don't know...20 seconds? As it stands they're closer to a minute.

Originally Posted by billyhoyle

Yeh I'm fine with it. They are such a bunch of pretentious bitches. Especially LeBron, who gives a s*hit about his chalk throw

Not him. He stopped doing it last season. Before the playoffs, contrary to what the article indicates.

[Porn Player]

Originally Posted by Jace

Ummm...pregame routines don't add 20 minutes to a game. That has nothing to do with the players.

If Stern has an issue with the length of games, perhaps he can mandate that 20 second timeouts last, I don't know...20 seconds? As it stands they're closer to a minute.

Pre-game routines are a very real part of the problem. Will this help reduce the problem? Yes. That's fine by me.

I concur on your second point, make it happen. Thanks.

[Jace]

OK, so they're limiting the routines to 90 minutes. What's the longest you think they took prior to this rule change?

[Porn Player]

I know that if a game is slated for 19:30, I don't need to tune in until 19.40 and I won't have missed any basketball action.

If this removes just 1 second, so be it, the point is, Stern has recognised it's a farce that slated games continually tip-off from anywhere between 5 and 15 minutes late.

That might not seem like a lot to some people, but when I regularly sit around until 01:00 (or as late as 03:00) to catch a game live, it really ****ing annoys me.

Why are you being so finicky about this? Does it make any difference to you that Stern has imposed this rule? Your boy LeBron has said he will still do the chalk toss, so what's the problem? (although why missing a chalk toss would get you so upset when you're a basketball fan I do not know)

[Jamel Irief]

Originally Posted by Jace

So since Stern has his job, he's absolutely infallible in every decision he makes 28 years later?



Ummm...pregame routines don't add 20 minutes to a game. That has nothing to do with the players.

If Stern has an issue with the length of games, perhaps he can mandate that 20 second timeouts last, I don't know...20 seconds? As it stands they're closer to a minute.



Not him. He stopped doing it last season. Before the playoffs, contrary to what the article indicates.

No my point was because stern is the boss he gets to make the rules and players follow them, whether jace or lebron think they're dumb.

If your boss limited water cooler breaks to 90 seconds you might complain, but I promise youll follow through.

[Porn Player]

Originally Posted by Jamel Irief

If your boss limited water cooler breaks to 90 seconds you might complain, but I promise youll follow through.

Why? Is the boss putting something in the water?


That bastard.

[Dre]

Originally Posted by Jamel Irief

Yeah David sterns rules, and they will abide just like they did the dress code.

We get it, you don't think nba players have to have petty rules because they jump high. Stern has his job for a reason, and if you want your full paycheck you'll be haste in your chalk throwing.

If dre was a nba player he would be branded uncoachable.

Difference between me and you is I have no problem with negative connotations from people if I feel like something is bullshit. Uncoachable has nothing to do with this by the way.

And no, it's not because they jump high, it's because they make a franchise hundreds of millions of dollars...that just doesn't compare to a 15/hour job where the CEO has no idea who you are.

[Jamel Irief]

Originally Posted by Dre

Difference between me and you is I have no problem with negative connotations from people if I feel like something is bullshit. Uncoachable has nothing to do with this by the way.

Just like Allen Iverson. We talkin about practice!

"People" is not the same as your boss/coach.

And no, it's not because they jump high, it's because they make a franchise hundreds of millions of dollars...that just doesn't compare to a 15/hour job where the CEO has no idea who you are.

Maybe 1% of the league makes their franchises hundreds of millions of dollars. If Norris Cole died tomorrow the NBA probably would gross the same amount of money this year as he would of with him. Should they have a set of rules for Norris Cole and a different set for Lebron James?

[Ben]

It's always annoyed me that NBA.com lists the tip off times as say, 7.00pm and it doesn't happen till at least 10 past. Makes no sense. It'd be a more sensible suggestion for me if they just kept it as is, but listed the tip off time as the actual tip off time.