James Harden TRADED to Rockets

[R-Star]

Originally Posted by BlakeJesus

He's a 6th Man by design, not because he's incapable of being a starter. He's not Jamal Crawford.

So was Ginobili.

[R-Star]

Anyways, Harden's probably going to be maxed out by some dumb team like the Bobcats.


I'm glad everyone's calmed down with the "2nd best SG in the league" bullshit with Harden.

[XxIrvingxX]

So I guess 52 million wasn't enough for him? Pretentious prick.

[Mr. Hobbes]

No 6th man ever gets a max deal, even if he's starter caliber.

Originally Posted by BlakeJesus

He's a 6th Man by design, not because he's incapable of being a starter.

Really?

[Jamel Irief]

Hey Dre, should I say it?

[NOFX22]

Originally Posted by XxIrvingxX

Pretty sure it doesn't work that way lol

Boston used there cap space and resign there own players with bird rights regardless of cap issues. I know hawks next season will try to sign Cp3 and Howard with there cap space and use the bird rights for Smith.

[rocketeer]

Originally Posted by XxIrvingxX

So I guess 52 million wasn't enough for him? Pretentious prick.

lol.

[Dornado]

He'll get more if he waits (unpredictable injuries aside). Can't see why that makes him pretentious... smart maybe.

[Hyperion]

Suns are going to sign him. Hopefully they get a good draft pick to replace Scola/Beasley.

That would work well for them.

[R-Star]

Originally Posted by Hyperion

Suns are going to sign him. Hopefully they get a good draft pick to replace Scola/Beasley.

That would work well for them.

No it wouldn't. Whoever goes for Harden wanting him as their #1 offensive star is going to at best fight for a bottom playoff spot.

[Hyperion]

Any team whose best player isn't named Lebron James is going to have a very tough time competing for the championship. Harden is still one of the top 5sg in the league. I have him right behind or tied with Gordon. did he flop in the finals both conference and nba? Yes, but he's 23 years old and averaged 17ppg on 10fga a game with 49% shooting and 39% from 3pt. Is he worth more than what the Thunder offered him? No, but to get a legit 20ppg sg that you didn't draft, you're going to have to pay a premium.

He's forced to play behind Russell "I need to shoot the most on the team because I'm the bestest" Westbrook and Durant. If he were to get the green light to shoot 20x a game, he'd probably average near 25ppg.

[Dornado]

Originally Posted by Hyperion

Any team whose best player isn't named Lebron James is going to have a very tough time competing for the championship. Harden is still one of the top 5sg in the league. I have him right behind or tied with Gordon. did he flop in the finals both conference and nba? Yes, but he's 23 years old and averaged 17ppg on 10fga a game with 49% shooting and 39% from 3pt. Is he worth more than what the Thunder offered him? No, but to get a legit 20ppg sg that you didn't draft, you're going to have to pay a premium.

He's forced to play behind Russell "I need to shoot the most on the team because I'm the bestest" Westbrook and Durant. If he were to get the green light to shoot 20x a game, he'd probably average near 25ppg.

See, those two statements are inconsistent. If you have to pay a premium for that type of player then he is, in fact, worth more than the Thunder are offering him. Not trying to single out your comment, but I feel like every time a guy signs a contract people feel he's overpaid, or "not worth it"... people may not like it, but the NBA market is what it is. Big guys get 10 million dollar contracts like they grow on trees... young lottery-type talents like Harden (even wings) who have shown that they can produce are probably worth more than 4 years 52 million.

[hobojoe]

These threads always crack me up. Go ahead, rip Harden for not accepting the offer because you don't think he's worth that much. Yea, he should just accept what he's "worth" according to you. Kind of like the thread laughing at Javale McGee last year where his agent publicly said what kind of contract he would be seeking. Who's laughing now? The guy with the $50 million deal.

[hobojoe]

Originally Posted by Dornado

See, those two statements are inconsistent. If you have to pay a premium for that type of player then he is, in fact, worth more than the Thunder are offering him. Not trying to single out your comment, but I feel like every time a guy signs a contract people feel he's overpaid, or "not worth it"... people may not like it, but the NBA market is what it is. Big guys get 10 million dollar contracts like they grow on trees... young lottery-type talents like Harden (even wings) who have shown that they can produce are probably worth more than 4 years 52 million.

Yup.

[Hyperion]

Originally Posted by Dornado

See, those two statements are inconsistent. If you have to pay a premium for that type of player then he is, in fact, worth more than the Thunder are offering him. Not trying to single out your comment, but I feel like every time a guy signs a contract people feel he's overpaid, or "not worth it"... people may not like it, but the NBA market is what it is. Big guys get 10 million dollar contracts like they grow on trees... young lottery-type talents like Harden (even wings) who have shown that they can produce are probably worth more than 4 years 52 million.

What a player is signed to versus what a player is worth are two different points. Arguing relative to his value against his production values him at one number while the supply in the league provides for a premium or discount. there is no logic disconnect here just two different valuation models. Fans have a proportionate value while gms have a competitive value.