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**Headliner** · 11-01-2012, 11:09 AM

Still don't see Houston going far in the post season but I'm glad Harden is balling hard. Maybe this was the best move for him after all. He gets a chance to be in a role he's most comfortable at. Lin & Harden is a nice backcourt. Lin needs to do one of those kid activities of keeping an egg for weeks without it breaking. Maybe it will help him turn the ball over less.

**Hyperion** · 11-01-2012, 11:13 AM

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Originally Posted by XxIrvingxX

Biggest overrating of someone I have ever seen in my life.

Did you watch the game and any of his games last year or just look at the boxscore/watch ESPN highlights? If you watched the game, he controlled the tempo pretty damn well even with Harden playing like a maniac. He'll be regarded as a top PG in the league by the end of this season.

.... a +/- of +23 is pretty damn phenomenal in a non-blowout.

doctordrizzay · 11-01-2012, 01:06 PM

Lin was pretty impressive, had foul trouble. But when he was on the court Detroit couldn't stop Houston.

**Jace** · 11-01-2012, 01:07 PM

Amazes me that people who are avid enough basketball fans to post on a messageboard still value single-game +/-.

Let's hold off on the top PG stuff, for now. There are a ton of very good PGs in the league. He'll have to play very well to be top 15.

**Hyperion** · 11-01-2012, 01:13 PM

Like he did last year, but that's not enough?

**Bogg** · 11-01-2012, 01:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Hyperion

Like he did last year, but that's not enough?

Well, no, playing well for a fraction of a season isn't enough to get you into the top-10 for your position. It's enough to get you an opportunity to keep doing what you were doing, but that's about it. Aaron Brooks, Goran Dragic, Kyle Lowry, and Jeremy Lin all have a lot left to prove.

**Luke** · 11-01-2012, 01:37 PM

If by phenomenal you mean slightly worse than Mike Conely then sure I guess.

Dee-Zy · 11-01-2012, 02:39 PM

Top 15?

Who are the top 14 PGs a head of him? I'm curious to know.

**Jace** · 11-01-2012, 03:10 PM

You serious? I'm too lazy to prove right now that Lin isn't a top 15 PG. Anyone else wanna take this one?

stl775 · 11-01-2012, 03:36 PM

Lin is 18th out of thirty.

ATLANTA: No
BOSTON: Rondo
BROOKLYN: Williams
CHARLOTTE: NO
CHICAGO: ROSE (NOT SURE IF HE COUNTS BECAUSE OF INJURY)
CLEVELAND: Irving
DALLAS: NO (Not the most impressive roster in my opinion)
DENVER: LAWSON
DETROIT: Stuckey
GOLDEN ST: NO (Lin is better than Jack)
INDIANA: HILL
LA CLIPPERS: PAUL
LA LAKERS: NASH
MEMPHIS: CONLEY (Tough call but I’ll go with Conley)
MIAMI: NO
MILWAUKEE: ELIIS/JENNINGS (Is Ellis the SG?)
MINNESOTA: RUBIO
NEW ORLEANS: NO
NEW YORK KNICKS: NO (Why do the Knicks have 17 PGS)
OKC: WESTBROOK (Maynor is not bad off the bench either)
ORLANDO: NELSON (He is the team’s best player probley maybe Affalo between Nelson and Lin could go either way.)
PHILADELPHIA: NO
PHOENIX: NO
PORTLAND: LILLARD (Possible rookie of the year. MAYBE)
SACREMENTO: EVANS (Good roster on the Kings I like what they are building too bad they are skipping town soon.)
SAN ANTONIO: PARKER
TORONTO: NO
UTAH: NO
WASHINGTON: WALL (CURRENT INJURY)

stl775 · 11-01-2012, 03:39 PM

Note: I can't count Lillard as better yet hes only played one game.

kbdullah · 11-01-2012, 04:04 PM

He's on par w/ Dragic in Phoenix.

Evans is not a point guard. Heck he was getting minutes at SF last year.
Stuckey is a shooting guard.
Jameer isn't better.
George Hill isn't better.
Rubio eh. Also has turnover issues plus has shooting issues. I'll take Lin.

Curry is in Golden State and is better.
Lowry is in Toronto and is better.

That puts him around 15-16 by my count.

XxIrvingxX · 11-01-2012, 04:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Hyperion

Did you watch the game and any of his games last year or just look at the boxscore/watch ESPN highlights? If you watched the game, he controlled the tempo pretty damn well even with Harden playing like a maniac. He'll be regarded as a top PG in the league by the end of this season.

.... a +/- of +23 is pretty damn phenomenal in a non-blowout.

You mean the games were he was completely irrelevant when Carmelo and Amare were back? Come on now. Lin is pretty good, I'll give him that much, but phenomenal? There's overrating, and then there's what you said.

Until he can prove that he can average 20 per game and around 10 per game WITHOUT turning the ball over 4 times per game, then I'll consider him phe...actually no that still wouldn't do it, and I highly doubt he's going to do that this season.

**Wade County** · 11-01-2012, 04:53 PM

Someone said they would take Lin over Rubio?

Dayum

**Jace** · 11-01-2012, 05:14 PM

I thought the linsanity was cured enough to make reasonable assessments, but I suppose not.

11-01-2012, 11:09 AM	#286 (permalink)
Headliner ____________ Join Date: Aug 2011 Posts: 1,892 Rep Power: 665818	Re: James Harden TRADED to Rockets Still don't see Houston going far in the post season but I'm glad Harden is balling hard. Maybe this was the best move for him after all. He gets a chance to be in a role he's most comfortable at. Lin & Harden is a nice backcourt. Lin needs to do one of those kid activities of keeping an egg for weeks without it breaking. Maybe it will help him turn the ball over less.

11-01-2012, 01:06 PM	#288 (permalink)
doctordrizzay Veteran Join Date: May 2011 Posts: 2,299 Rep Power: 0	Re: James Harden TRADED to Rockets Lin was pretty impressive, had foul trouble. But when he was on the court Detroit couldn't stop Houston. __________________ Miami Heat won't go 16-0 in post season.

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Jace X V I Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Miami/Raleigh Age: 27 Posts: 15,957 Rep Power: 2677067	Re: James Harden TRADED to Rockets Amazes me that people who are avid enough basketball fans to post on a messageboard still value single-game +/-. Let's hold off on the top PG stuff, for now. There are a ton of very good PGs in the league. He'll have to play very well to be top 15. __________________ Jace's soundcloud

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Luke Go Dawgs Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Atlanta, GA Posts: 11,868 Rep Power: 4300832	Re: James Harden TRADED to Rockets If by phenomenal you mean slightly worse than Mike Conely then sure I guess. __________________ Formerly VanillaPrice

11-01-2012, 02:39 PM	#293 (permalink)
Dee-Zy Legend Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: mtl Posts: 11,088 Rep Power: 5792515	Re: James Harden TRADED to Rockets Top 15? Who are the top 14 PGs a head of him? I'm curious to know. __________________ Social Media Marketing - NBA Players on Twitter Champions.

11-01-2012, 03:10 PM	#294 (permalink)
Jace X V I Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Miami/Raleigh Age: 27 Posts: 15,957 Rep Power: 2677067	Re: James Harden TRADED to Rockets You serious? I'm too lazy to prove right now that Lin isn't a top 15 PG. Anyone else wanna take this one? __________________ Jace's soundcloud

11-01-2012, 03:36 PM	#295 (permalink)
stl775 6th Man Join Date: Oct 2008 Posts: 352 Rep Power: 13598	Re: James Harden TRADED to Rockets Lin is 18th out of thirty. ATLANTA: No BOSTON: Rondo BROOKLYN: Williams CHARLOTTE: NO CHICAGO: ROSE (NOT SURE IF HE COUNTS BECAUSE OF INJURY) CLEVELAND: Irving DALLAS: NO (Not the most impressive roster in my opinion) DENVER: LAWSON DETROIT: Stuckey GOLDEN ST: NO (Lin is better than Jack) INDIANA: HILL LA CLIPPERS: PAUL LA LAKERS: NASH MEMPHIS: CONLEY (Tough call but I’ll go with Conley) MIAMI: NO MILWAUKEE: ELIIS/JENNINGS (Is Ellis the SG?) MINNESOTA: RUBIO NEW ORLEANS: NO NEW YORK KNICKS: NO (Why do the Knicks have 17 PGS) OKC: WESTBROOK (Maynor is not bad off the bench either) ORLANDO: NELSON (He is the team’s best player probley maybe Affalo between Nelson and Lin could go either way.) PHILADELPHIA: NO PHOENIX: NO PORTLAND: LILLARD (Possible rookie of the year. MAYBE) SACREMENTO: EVANS (Good roster on the Kings I like what they are building too bad they are skipping town soon.) SAN ANTONIO: PARKER TORONTO: NO UTAH: NO WASHINGTON: WALL (CURRENT INJURY)

11-01-2012, 03:39 PM	#296 (permalink)
stl775 6th Man Join Date: Oct 2008 Posts: 352 Rep Power: 13598	Re: James Harden TRADED to Rockets Note: I can't count Lillard as better yet hes only played one game.

11-01-2012, 04:04 PM	#297 (permalink)
kbdullah Star Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: Houston, TX Posts: 3,402 Rep Power: 1266257	Re: James Harden TRADED to Rockets He's on par w/ Dragic in Phoenix. Evans is not a point guard. Heck he was getting minutes at SF last year. Stuckey is a shooting guard. Jameer isn't better. George Hill isn't better. Rubio eh. Also has turnover issues plus has shooting issues. I'll take Lin. Curry is in Golden State and is better. Lowry is in Toronto and is better. That puts him around 15-16 by my count.

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11-01-2012, 05:14 PM	#300 (permalink)
Jace X V I Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Miami/Raleigh Age: 27 Posts: 15,957 Rep Power: 2677067	Re: James Harden TRADED to Rockets I thought the linsanity was cured enough to make reasonable assessments, but I suppose not. __________________ Jace's soundcloud

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