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Old 11-19-2012, 08:20 AM   #436 (permalink)
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They're both from Charlotte and I stopped reading after points.
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Ha, I'm shooting up that league like a hunter in Reddeer.

3 weeks running I've totaled the most points, even last week when Lowry didn't suit up. Hopefully when you get Wall back, and KJ gets Love and Rose I'll have some competition.
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Huh? I was about the only person on these boards that liked the Bradley selection. I'd even put him on my Boston wish list a couple of years ago when I wrote my pre-draft piece (you can look it up). I've maintained from the start that he's going to be a pretty good combo guard. Of course, I don't overrate him, so you won't see me saying, as Boston fans have been of late, "How could you think of trading Bradley for [insert name of top 25 NBA player here]‽ He's a franchise guard and the greatest defensive 2 in the history of the NBA!!!!!"
It was a theoretical, I wasn't referencing you going after Bradley in any specific thread. The Celtics fans online have a habit of overrating any competent young player on the squad, and they'll do the same with Bradley if he winds up in trade talks. I expect that you'll wind up too negative on him in the future if people argue that Boston destroyed their perimeter depth in giving him up for a guy like Smith (which would be wrong, like it was wrong to lament trading Jefferson for KG)



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Similarly with Rondo, against Toronto the Garden scorekeepers gave him assists on a Jeff Green dribble drive, a Green two off the dribble, and a Garnett step back drive. Because I do watch I see all these things, and know to take the record with a grain of salt.
I don't put any stock into the record, but I do think he's, at minimum, among the very best set-up guys in the league. However, I tell my friends all the time that Rondo openly stat-pads for his assist total, only he never gets called out on it because it isn't a "selfish" stat. He unquestionably makes the Boston offense better, but if he looked to score just a little more it would have a positive effect.
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Ha, I'm shooting up that league like a hunter in Reddeer.

3 weeks running I've totaled the most points, even last week when Lowry didn't suit up. Hopefully when you get Wall back, and KJ gets Love and Rose I'll have some competition.
Kawhi is injured for 2 weeks now too, so I'm stuck with 3 guys on the IR.

If I wasn't winning every week I'd probably panic and would have dropped Harrington.



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Huh? I was about the only person on these boards that liked the Bradley selection. I'd even put him on my Boston wish list a couple of years ago when I wrote my pre-draft piece (you can look it up). I've maintained from the start that he's going to be a pretty good combo guard. Of course, I don't overrate him, so you won't see me saying, as Boston fans have been of late, "How could you think of trading Bradley for [insert name of top 25 NBA player here]‽ He's a franchise guard and the greatest defensive 2 in the history of the NBA!!!!!"

Similarly with Rondo, against Toronto the Garden scorekeepers gave him assists on a Jeff Green dribble drive, a Green two off the dribble, and a Garnett step back drive. Because I do watch I see all these things, and know to take the record with a grain of salt.
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Every time Celtics fans overrate the importance of a player on message boards EH spends enough time reeling them back in that he winds up being too negative on them going forward. The same thing happened with Al Jefferson in the Garnett trade and with Kendrick Perkins being shipped out. If Avery Bradley comes back healthy, plays well, and winds up in trade talks for Josh Smith only for C's fans to react loudly and negatively, we'll be hearing how Avery's barely a passable third guard.
R-star is kind of like that with Heat fans. Otherwise all we would hear non-stop in their rookie years is how good Dorrel Wright, Dequan Cook, Terrell Harris and Norris Cole are.
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You forgot Patrick Beverley.
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R-star is kind of like that with Heat fans. Otherwise all we would hear non-stop in their rookie years is how good Dorrel Wright, Dequan Cook, Terrell Harris and Norris Cole are.
That is true. I used to go off on some Dorrel Wright rants.


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I remember last year someone in there said "I would trade Haslem (or Anthony?) and Miller for Nene" and I asked "what if they made you throw in Pittman?"

His response was something along the lines of, "well, it would suck to lose him... but we might never develop him further" or something. This was before Nene got hurt mind you.
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I remember last year someone in there said "I would trade Haslem (or Anthony?) and Miller for Nene" and I asked "what if they made you throw in Pittman?"

His response was something along the lines of, "well, it would suck to lose him... but we might never develop him further" or something. This was before Nene got hurt mind you.
That's why the majority of those guys stick to the Heat forum and refuse to come out.

Its always fun to go in there and stumble upon someone calling Norris Cole a promising young PG, or Anthony is some sort of premier defensive center.


Who did they draft this year? If they had a draft pick I bet whoever they picked was the steal of the draft and will probably be a superstar.
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Is Joel Anthony still on the team?
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It was a theoretical, I wasn't referencing you going after Bradley in any specific thread. The Celtics fans online have a habit of overrating any competent young player on the squad, and they'll do the same with Bradley if he winds up in trade talks. I expect that you'll wind up too negative on him in the future if people argue that Boston destroyed their perimeter depth in giving him up for a guy like Smith (which would be wrong, like it was wrong to lament trading Jefferson for KG)
No, I'm pretty sure that here or anywhere Bradley's going to end up being one of the better combo guards in the NBA. He just isn't a franchise player. And I think you may be misremembering my point about Al (NOTE: Bogg came here from another message board where the debate he's referring to took place).

From the start I said that it was nigh on impossible to build a contender around an offensive roleplayer with Jefferson's particular skillset, and that Boston should get out while the value was high (it's a perimeter game these days, encouraged so by the rule changes of the last 15 years). People, even NBA GMs, ooohed and ahhhed over the pretty post moves, and figured that maybe they could make him not be Al Jefferson and, as such, the next Amar'e. As it turned out, years later, he's turned into a pretty good roleplayer now that he's accepted that he has to play some defense and can't be the first option on offense. But jesus was it obvious that you had to turn him into a real all star before the rest of the NBA figured out that his real upside was "good roleplayer".
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