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**Floods** · 10-27-2012, 08:17 PM

Yeah Martin's in the last year of his deal.

Everyone's reporting this now, I think 'twitter' can be taken out of the thread title.

LA68 · 10-27-2012, 08:18 PM

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Originally Posted by FSH

I would say this trade is more about Jeremy Lamb then Kevin Martin. Martin is a FA after the year isnt he?

But anyways...Wow just wow that was fast

Bingo ! The new cap rules are in play here. They couldn't keep the whole team together and stay under the tax. Someone had to go.

chilltown · 10-27-2012, 08:19 PM

Damn what? Kevin Martin, Jeremy Lamb (lottery pick), and 2 first round picks?

**Floods** · 10-27-2012, 08:19 PM

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Originally Posted by LA68

OKC got away like bandits. Martin is expiring and he can get by for one season. Lamb is on a rookie deal for years. And OKC knows how to make the most of those picks.

Those could be good picks too. Toronto's is guaranteed lottery, and Dallas is looking good for a free fall this year.

**Headliner** · 10-27-2012, 08:20 PM

lol Harden. When post season hits, he'll realize he should of shut his mouth and took whatever offer they gave him.

**Floods** · 10-27-2012, 08:21 PM

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Originally Posted by chilltown

Damn what? Kevin Martin, Jeremy Lamb (lottery pick), and 2 first round picks?

Yeah, and Charlotte's 2nd rounder, which should be in the 31-34 range.

Presti just Sandusky'd Morey.

FSH · 10-27-2012, 08:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Floods

Those could be good picks too. Toronto's is guaranteed lottery, and Dallas is looking good for a free fall this year.

Could they also move Martin Expiring for a pick? Kevin Martin doesnt seem like the guy that will fit with Westbrooke and Durant

LA68 · 10-27-2012, 08:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Floods

Those could be good picks too. Toronto's is guaranteed lottery, and Dallas is looking good for a free fall this year.

They might be needing a big man or two by then. Fits perfectly.

Pacers Fan · 10-27-2012, 08:23 PM

Good deal for OKC. They got a good return for Harden now in Martin, some great future pieces in Lamb, and the Toronto pick, can keep together the rest of their core, and perhaps most importantly, they don't have to deal with the speculation about Harden leaving all season. It's entirely possible that given events with superstar sign and trades in the past, and that Harden isn't a superstar, OKC might've been lucky to deal him for a first round pick this upcoming summer.

FSH · 10-27-2012, 08:23 PM

That Raptors pick could seriously be a top 3 pick..What if OKC ends up with Noel or Zeller?

Pacers Fan · 10-27-2012, 08:25 PM

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Originally Posted by FSH

Could they also move Martin Expiring for a pick? Kevin Martin doesnt seem like the guy that will fit with Westbrooke and Durant

That's my main concern. Martin's a hell of a shooter, but he plays a lot like Durant on offense, and he doesn't have the defensive capabilities Harden had. OKC will have some trouble defending the wing this season when Thabo Sefolosha isn't in the game.

LA68 · 10-27-2012, 08:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Pacers Fan

Good deal for OKC. They got a good return for Harden now in Martin, some great future pieces in Lamb, and the Toronto pick, can keep together the rest of their core, and perhaps most importantly, they don't have to deal with the speculation about Harden leaving all season. It's entirely possible that given events with superstar sign and trades in the past, and that Harden isn't a superstar, OKC might've been lucky to deal him for a first round pick this upcoming summer.

Isn't it nice for a team to just do the deal instead of letting it linger all season long ? This tells you OKC wants no distractions. Just focus on getting back to the finals.

NOFX22 · 10-27-2012, 08:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Dissonance

$60M. There's a limit.

No they can offer him five years which he can over 90 million. The Derrick rose exception

**Diable** · 10-27-2012, 08:26 PM

If you're serious about winning a title this year it's a big step back. Harden was really their primary playmaker when he was on the court and playmaking is the largest weakness that team has. OKC's team assist and turnover numbers were already way too similar, now they are going to have a big problem in that area. Martin is the opposite of that. Maynor's status becomes a huge deal in my mind. I can't recall what his contract is or whether or not he's going to be good to go. Long term this is a great deal for the Thunder, but when you have Kevin Durant I don't know that you should be looking far down the line.

**Floods** · 10-27-2012, 08:27 PM

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Originally Posted by FSH

That Raptors pick could seriously be a top 3 pick..What if OKC ends up with Noel or Zeller?

Sam Presti is laughing at the NBA right now.

OKC has the flexibility to make more moves now.

10-27-2012, 08:17 PM	#46 (permalink)
Floods -LIFETIME MEMBER- Join Date: Oct 2005 Posts: 14,132 Rep Power: 15842309	Re: TWITTER: OKC sends James Harden to Houston for Kevin Martin Yeah Martin's in the last year of his deal. Everyone's reporting this now, I think 'twitter' can be taken out of the thread title.

10-27-2012, 08:19 PM	#48 (permalink)
chilltown Veteran Join Date: Jul 2010 Posts: 2,438 Rep Power: 1202544	Re: TWITTER: OKC sends James Harden to Houston for Kevin Martin Damn what? Kevin Martin, Jeremy Lamb (lottery pick), and 2 first round picks?

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Headliner ____________ Join Date: Aug 2011 Posts: 1,892 Rep Power: 665818	Re: TWITTER: OKC sends James Harden to Houston for Kevin Martin lol Harden. When post season hits, he'll realize he should of shut his mouth and took whatever offer they gave him.

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Pacers Fan Legend Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Bloomington, Indiana Age: 22 Posts: 16,417 Rep Power: 21474863	Re: TWITTER: OKC sends James Harden to Houston for Kevin Martin Good deal for OKC. They got a good return for Harden now in Martin, some great future pieces in Lamb, and the Toronto pick, can keep together the rest of their core, and perhaps most importantly, they don't have to deal with the speculation about Harden leaving all season. It's entirely possible that given events with superstar sign and trades in the past, and that Harden isn't a superstar, OKC might've been lucky to deal him for a first round pick this upcoming summer. __________________ Indeed.

10-27-2012, 08:23 PM	#55 (permalink)
FSH I want Waffles. Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Syracuse,NY Posts: 13,925 Rep Power: 4891286	Re: TWITTER: OKC sends James Harden to Houston for Kevin Martin That Raptors pick could seriously be a top 3 pick..What if OKC ends up with Noel or Zeller? __________________

10-27-2012, 08:26 PM	#59 (permalink)
Diable Limehouse Blues Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: North Carolina Posts: 22,185 Rep Power: 14650805	Re: OFFICIAL: OKC sends James Harden to Houston for Kevin Martin If you're serious about winning a title this year it's a big step back. Harden was really their primary playmaker when he was on the court and playmaking is the largest weakness that team has. OKC's team assist and turnover numbers were already way too similar, now they are going to have a big problem in that area. Martin is the opposite of that. Maynor's status becomes a huge deal in my mind. I can't recall what his contract is or whether or not he's going to be good to go. Long term this is a great deal for the Thunder, but when you have Kevin Durant I don't know that you should be looking far down the line. __________________

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