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James Harden TRADED to Rockets

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#1 ·
James Harden turned down a four-year, $52 million contract extension offer from the Oklahoma City Thunder.

Harden is seeking a maximum-level deal worth $60 million over four years.

The Thunder have until Wednesday to sign Harden to a contract extension or allow him the opportunity to become a restricted free agent on July 1.

Via Adrian Wojnarowski/Yahoo! Sports
 
#6 ·
Yep. If I were James Harden, I would seriously consider setting aside that extra 2 mil/year and not have impending free agency bothering him and his teammates this season. No way the Thunder offer a max extension when they can match any offer next summer regardless. Or are max extensions less than max contracts?

But really, someone's going to sign James Harden to a max contract, and that team is going to be very disappointed. I love Harden's game, but he's not a #1 guy. He'd be much better suited as a #2 or #3 guy.
 
#18 ·
So I guess 52 million wasn't enough for him? Pretentious prick.
 
#20 ·
Hey Dre, should I say it?
 
#24 ·
Suns are going to sign him. Hopefully they get a good draft pick to replace Scola/Beasley.

That would work well for them.
 
#26 ·
Any team whose best player isn't named Lebron James is going to have a very tough time competing for the championship. Harden is still one of the top 5sg in the league. I have him right behind or tied with Gordon. did he flop in the finals both conference and nba? Yes, but he's 23 years old and averaged 17ppg on 10fga a game with 49% shooting and 39% from 3pt. Is he worth more than what the Thunder offered him? No, but to get a legit 20ppg sg that you didn't draft, you're going to have to pay a premium.

He's forced to play behind Russell "I need to shoot the most on the team because I'm the bestest" Westbrook and Durant. If he were to get the green light to shoot 20x a game, he'd probably average near 25ppg.
 
#27 ·
Any team whose best player isn't named Lebron James is going to have a very tough time competing for the championship. Harden is still one of the top 5sg in the league. I have him right behind or tied with Gordon. did he flop in the finals both conference and nba? Yes, but he's 23 years old and averaged 17ppg on 10fga a game with 49% shooting and 39% from 3pt. Is he worth more than what the Thunder offered him? No, but to get a legit 20ppg sg that you didn't draft, you're going to have to pay a premium.

He's forced to play behind Russell "I need to shoot the most on the team because I'm the bestest" Westbrook and Durant. If he were to get the green light to shoot 20x a game, he'd probably average near 25ppg.
See, those two statements are inconsistent. If you have to pay a premium for that type of player then he is, in fact, worth more than the Thunder are offering him. Not trying to single out your comment, but I feel like every time a guy signs a contract people feel he's overpaid, or "not worth it"... people may not like it, but the NBA market is what it is. Big guys get 10 million dollar contracts like they grow on trees... young lottery-type talents like Harden (even wings) who have shown that they can produce are probably worth more than 4 years 52 million.
 
#28 ·
These threads always crack me up. Go ahead, rip Harden for not accepting the offer because you don't think he's worth that much. Yea, he should just accept what he's "worth" according to you. Kind of like the thread laughing at Javale McGee last year where his agent publicly said what kind of contract he would be seeking. Who's laughing now? The guy with the $50 million deal.
 
#33 · (Edited)
OFFICIAL: OKC sends James Harden to Houston for Kevin Martin, Lamb, picks galore

Adrian Wojnarowski ‏@WojYahooNBA
Oklahoma City has traded James Harden to the Houston Rockets, league sources tell Y! Sports.

Adrian Wojnarowski ‏@WojYahooNBA
The Rockets send Kevin Martin, Jeremy Lamb and future draft considerations to the Thunder for Harden, sources tell Y! Sports.

Adrian Wojnarowski ‏@WojYahooNBA
As part of deal, Thunder will receive "significant" future draft picks from Houston, source tells Y! Sports.

Adrian Wojnarowski ‏@WojYahooNBA
Along with All-Star guard James Harden, the Thunder will send Cole Aldridge, Lazr Hayward and Daquan Cook to the Rockets, source tells Y!

Adrian Wojnarowski ‏@WojYahooNBA
Houston sends two 2013 first-round picks (from Dallas and Toronto) to Oklahoma CIty, source tells Y!

Adrian Wojnarowski ‏@WojYahooNBA
Houston also sends a 2013 second-round pick (via Charlotte) to Thunder.

Adrian Wojnarowski ‏@WojYahooNBA
Talks on an extension broke down between the Thunder and Harden on an extension, and Presti moved quickly to trade him.
TL;DR =

Rockets get James Harden, Cole Aldrich, Daequan Cook, Lazar Hayward
Thunder get Kevin Martin, Jeremy Lamb, draft picks
 
#34 ·
Re: TWITTER: James Harden to Houston for Kevin Martin

WOW, they didn't waste anytime. OKC saying you don't accept our cheaper extension, we're shipping your ass out.
 
#45 ·
Re: TWITTER: James Harden to Houston for Kevin Martin

WOW, they didn't waste anytime. OKC saying you don't accept our cheaper extension, we're shipping your ass out.
You never let a player dictate any deals your team makes - Jerry West

OKC got away like bandits. Martin is expiring and he can get by for one season. Lamb is on a rookie deal for years. And OKC knows how to make the most of those picks.

Undoubtedly Houston will give Harden what he wants. Houston now has three big money deals with guys who have never started a full season.

Houston knew this season was gonna be a dud. I guess they had to do something.
 
#37 ·
Re: TWITTER: OKC sends James Harden to Houston for Kevin Martin

When did James Harden become an all-star? bogus twatter report
 
#39 ·
Re: TWITTER: OKC sends James Harden to Houston for Kevin Martin

If this is true OKC did well getting assets in return. However they are definitely worse off in terms of talent after the trade. Harden fills a specific need for them as Westbrook isn't much of a distributor. OKC gets no such player in return and will have to look for someone else to get Kevin Durant the ball in crunch time.
 
#41 ·
Re: TWITTER: OKC sends James Harden to Houston for Kevin Martin

Adrian Wojnarowski ‏@WojYahooNBA
Houston sends two 2013 first-round picks (from Dallas and Toronto) to Oklahoma CIty, source tells Y!

Adrian Wojnarowski ‏@WojYahooNBA
Houston also sends a 2013 second-round pick (via Charlotte) to Thunder.

Quite a haul for OKC.
 
#47 ·
Re: TWITTER: OKC sends James Harden to Houston for Kevin Martin

I would say this trade is more about Jeremy Lamb then Kevin Martin. Martin is a FA after the year isnt he?

But anyways...Wow just wow that was fast
Bingo ! The new cap rules are in play here. They couldn't keep the whole team together and stay under the tax. Someone had to go.
 
#51 ·
Re: TWITTER: OKC sends James Harden to Houston for Kevin Martin

Damn what? Kevin Martin, Jeremy Lamb (lottery pick), and 2 first round picks?
Yeah, and Charlotte's 2nd rounder, which should be in the 31-34 range.

Presti just Sandusky'd Morey.
 
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