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Old 11-09-2012, 03:28 PM   #61 (permalink)
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Well, his main man Tex is done.
Im talking about his actual assistants. Hamblen, Cleamons and Rambis
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Old 11-09-2012, 03:44 PM   #62 (permalink)
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I see no point in them hiring Brian Shaw during the season, unless they somehow strike out on D, Jackson and Sloan.
What does "during the season" have to do with anything

Who knows what Phil is thinking, and D'Antoni would definitely take it but I think they'd go after Shaw before him the way people love him.

But Sloan is just not going to happen. I just don't see him coexisting with the Buss' or being able to instill his style on that roster. He strikes me as a prick (in a good way) and that's what they don't need because if it doesn't work it'll go waaay south.

And I used to think the same thing Jace re: the triangle/point guards but after reading Phil Jackson's book and his explanation of the triangle there's no reason Steve Nash wouldn't be able to thrive in the triangle. It's predicated on motion, ball movement and quick shooting, all things Nash can excel at. That's a myth only because the Bulls/Lakers never happened to come across an all-star PG.

Gary Payton had trouble with the triangle but he was a) toast anyway and b) set in his ways. I bet if they traded him for Pippen at like 24 they'd still have 6 rings.

Phil himself proposed trading for Jason Kidd at one point..to initiate the offense better than he perceived Kobe was...he wouldn't think of something that drastic and Kidd in particular if he didn't think a dominant point guard could thrive in the triangle.


What they need to do is bring Phil back, put Shaw on his staff and give Phil two more years and just move on with Shaw.

I heard all that power struggle bullshit in Phil's final year but the Buss' are desperate and willing to admit where their bread is buttered...they're probably not enjoying having to kiss Phil's ass.
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Re: ESPN: Mike Brown Fired

Hey Lakers, want to make sure you don't win the championship? Hire D'Antoni.
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What does "during the season" have to do with anything

Who knows what Phil is thinking, and D'Antoni would definitely take it but I think they'd go after Shaw before him the way people love him.

But Sloan is just not going to happen.

And I used to think the same thing Jace re: the triangle/point guards but after reading Phil Jackson's book and his explanation of the triangle there's no reason Steve Nash wouldn't be able to thrive in the triangle. It's predicated on motion, ball movement and quick shooting, all things Nash can excel at. That's a myth only because the Bulls/Lakers never happened to come across an all-star PG.

Gary Payton had trouble with the triangle but he was a) toast anyway and b) set in his ways. I bet if they traded him for Pippen at like 24 they'd still have 6 rings.

Phil himself proposed trading for Jason Kidd at one point..to initiate the offense better than he perceived Kobe was...he wouldn't think of something that drastic and Kidd in particular if he didn't think a dominant point guard could thrive in the triangle.


What they need to do is bring Phil back, put Shaw on his staff and give Phil two more years and just move on with Shaw.

I heard all that power struggle bullshit in Phil's final year but the Buss' are desperate and willing to admit where their bread is buttered...they're probably not enjoying having to kiss Phil's ass.
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What does "during the season" have to do with anything

Who knows what Phil is thinking, and D'Antoni would definitely take it but I think they'd go after Shaw before him the way people love him.

But Sloan is just not going to happen.

And I used to think the same thing Jace re: the triangle/point guards but after reading Phil Jackson's book and his explanation of the triangle there's no reason Steve Nash wouldn't be able to thrive in the triangle. It's predicated on motion, ball movement and quick shooting, all things Nash can excel at. That's a myth only because the Bulls/Lakers never happened to come across an all-star PG.

Phil himself proposed trading for Jason Kidd at one point..to initiate the offense better than he perceived Kobe was...he wouldn't think of something that drastic and Kidd in particular if he didn't think a dominant point guard could thrive in the triangle.


What they need to do is bring Phil back, put Shaw on his staff and give Phil two more years and just move on with Shaw.

I heard all that power struggle bullshit in Phil's final year but the Buss' are desperate and willing to admit where their bread is buttered...they're probably not enjoying having to kiss Phil's ass.
1. Its been said that they likely arent hiring an assistant
2. Jim Buss is going to say, "Oh, we made a mistake. Lets hire Shaw" over D or possibly Phil?
3. Season or not, I dont think Shaw is a viable candidate even if it was July 1st, unless Phil and D turned them down. We all know D isnt turning down that job.
4. Jim Buss said the #1 goal, over anything else, is to win a title in the next 2 seasons. I can definitely see Jim putting things aside to try to bring back Phil. The question is will Phil?

Also, I see no reason for Shaw to leave his gig in Indy just to take another assistant gig in LA.
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1. Its been said that they likely arent hiring an assistant
2. You really think Jim Buss is going to say, "Oh, we made a mistake. Lets hire Shaw" over D or possibly Phil?
3. Season or not, I dont think Shaw is a viable candidate even if it was July 1st, unless Phil and D turned them down. We all know D isnt turning down that job.
4. Jim Buss said the #1 goal, over anything else, is to win a title in the next 2 seasons. I can definitely see Jim putting things aside to try to bring back Phil. The question is will Phil?
I never said they should hire Shaw over Phil though so what are you talking about.
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I never said they should hire Shaw over Phil though so what are you talking about.
Because my point is that Shaw is not a viable candidate (unless D or Phil say no) or assistant coach candidate. It could be July 1 or Novemeber 9, hiring Shaw right now is not the move to make unless everything back fires.
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Re: ESPN: Mike Brown Fired

I'd hire him before D'Antoni if I were Buss...and if Phil comes back he should too just like they were doing the past couple years
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I'd hire him before D'Antoni if I were Buss...and if Phil comes back he should too just like they were doing the past couple years
I would have hired Adelman over either of them.

Personally, I dont see Shaw coming back and disrupting Indy. I do think he is going to be a good head coach though.
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I would have hired Adelman over either of them.

Personally, I dont see Shaw coming back and disrupting Indy. I do think he is going to be a good head coach though.
I think shaw would be perfect if they can get phil because shaw knows the tringle offense and this is the guy that kobe wanted in the first place after phil left. I dont know why ppl want mike a'd to be lakers head coach cause doesnt defense wins championship? if so then why bring him? Cause he knows how to do pick and roll and has coach nash before? lol.
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I would have hired Adelman over either of them.

Personally, I dont see Shaw coming back and disrupting Indy. I do think he is going to be a good head coach though.
Adalman is the same coach that coach the kings with the same offense that mike brown is doing before got fired.
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Re: ESPN: Mike Brown Fired

Its going to be Phil. "Sources" are saying Dwight has requested him, and other "sources" are saying Phil is open. The drama continues.
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Its going to be Phil. "Sources" are saying Dwight has requested him, and other "sources" are saying Phil is open. The drama continues.
I think phil should stay retired. He already break winning more rings as a coach record so what more does he wants? Shaw deserves a chance.
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@ArashMarkazi: Phil Jackson would be open to returning to the Lakers sidelines writes @mcten. http://t.co/PXkdRHuU
Funny how they use "Associate Head Coach" in the article which happens to be Shaw's title. How many associate head coaches are there in the NBA??
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Funny how they use "Associate Head Coach" in the article which happens to be Shaw's title. How many associate head coaches are there in the NBA??
Yeah, I answered this on the Laker thread. Associate is superior to assisant, almost as a "co-head-coach" but not quite.

Think of it as a second-in-command.
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