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Old 11-14-2012, 07:15 PM   #1 (permalink)
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The Grizzlies could win it all...

...**** it, I'm going to say it. And this is not just about tonight, I was thinking this while I was watching the Heat game.

I was gonna say some hokey shit like "they're as good as anybody when they want to be" blah blah...but I'll put it like this:

The West is now wide open. The Thunder are not going to be the same team...they are not head and shoulders any more...the Lakers have defense/bench issues (like last year), the Spurs are liable to suddenly show their age just like last year...the Grizzlies can exploit all of that and are on the same level if not number 1 if you ranked them all.

They're a tough, smart, defensive minded team with an all-star wing, two all-star low post players, a quick point guard who can shoot, solid depth and solid coaching. No small ball (though they could probably do it sometimes if they wanted to).

The Heat can be beat if you have the right size on the court. The Heat won't be able to take Randolph and Gasol off the court like they managed to do with Perkins, essentially making the Thunder play their game which they couldn't do. Randolph and Gasol are too dangerous in the low post.

The Grizzlies are going to hit you in the mouth and make you grind with them, and they have the personnel to pull any game off down the stretch. They have Tony Allen who's probably the most disruptive wing defender going. Rudy Gay is underrated and a super complete wing.

I don't know if anyone feels the same way, but coming into the season (like last year) I looked at the Grizzlies like one of those tough out teams that builds narrative for the Thunder or Lakers in their quest to the finals...but that roster is as good as anyone in the West and they have the matchups to beat the Heat. Their challenge will be beating the Thunder and/or Lakers.

I'm not saying they're my pick, it's way too early for that, but this is kind of a revelation for me so I'm going to share it...my list of teams that I could conceivably see winning it all (barring a major top tier injury) grew: Heat, Thunder, Grizzlies, Lakers. And then the Lakers not really I just say it because they have too much talent to ignore.

And all that said it's a testament to Wallace and whoever else has been building in Memphis because they were a laughing stock and Zach Randolph was rapidly approaching cancer status.

The comparisons to those Pistons are actually there when you look at it...a bunch of underestimated players who are coming together to prove themselves...Marc Gasol was looked at as a throw in in the Pau Gasol deal...a former Blazer forward with exceptional talent and ability to be the guy but can't get his head straight...a very good wing player from UCONN...Tony Allen...I'm going to shutup now but I like these guys and I actually hope they can steal a ring.
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The West is now wide open. The Thunder are not going to be the same team...they are not head and shoulders any more...the Lakers have defense/bench issues (like last year), the Spurs are liable to suddenly show their age just like last year...the Grizzlies can exploit all of that and are on the same level if not number 1 if you ranked them all.
You forgot the Clippers.
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They can't beat the clippers
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Re: The Grizzlies could win it all...

Grizzlies got a little Detroit Pistons to them: complete team who don't give you any position that you can really exploit as they got solid to better players at every position. Obviously tough, just enough outside shooting to keep you honest, and multiple guys who can be the hero on any given night.

I've liked them for awhile and I could see them winning the title: hopefully they stay healthy (Randolph in particular as he's the key piece)
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No I didn't
Memphis has match-up problems against the Clippers.

Oh wait...

Miami showed tonight they have match-up problems against the Clippers.

Oh wait...

San Antonio had a real problem with the Clippers in the last game.

Oh wait...

The Lakers...oh, never mind about the Lakers. That was an easy one for the Clippers.
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Re: The Grizzlies could win it all...

Don't see it happening for the Grizzlies.
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Memphis has match-up problems against the Clippers.

Oh wait...

Miami showed tonight they have match-up problems against the Clippers.

Oh wait...

San Antonio had a real problem with the Clippers in the last game.

Oh wait...

The Lakers...oh, never mind about the Lakers. That was an easy one for the Clippers.
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Grizzlies got a little Detroit Pistons to them: complete team who don't give you any position that you can really exploit as they got solid to better players at every position. Obviously tough, just enough outside shooting to keep you honest, and multiple guys who can be the hero on any given night.

I've liked them for awhile and I could see them winning the title: hopefully they stay healthy (Randolph in particular as he's the key piece)
Yeah, well I've heard about this Grizz team for the past two seasons going to the NBA Finals but look what happens...2nd round exit two years ago, 1st round exit last year.

Anyone can look good in October.

Let's see what happens in April next year to see if they can finally get a little deeper in the playoffs.
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IMO Clippers have a better shot at going to the Finals before the Grizzlies do.
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Yeah, well I've heard about this Grizz team for the past two seasons going to the NBA Finals but look what happens...2nd round exit two years ago, 1st round exit last year.

Anyone can look good in October.

Let's see what happens in April next year to see if they can finally get a little deeper in the playoffs.
Bullshit...not even the most homerific Grizz fan considered the Grizz contenders. Definitely nobody thought of them as contenders with Rudy Gay missing the playoffs and ZBo missing 75% of the season.

Plus, the Grizzlies have never started out a season strong.

The Grizz are contenders this year but so are about 4 other teams in the West. However, the Grizzlies have a real problem with one man named Chris Paul. We have not figured out a way to even slow him down.
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Yeah, well I've heard about this Grizz team for the past two seasons going to the NBA Finals but look what happens...2nd round exit two years ago, 1st round exit last year.

Anyone can look good in October.

Let's see what happens in April next year to see if they can finally get a little deeper in the playoffs.
They didn't have a healthy Randolph last year and Gay was hurt the year before: not sure what they did the last few seasons would be considered disappointing as you're making it out to be based on the injury report.
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Old 11-14-2012, 10:47 PM   #14 (permalink)
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Re: The Grizzlies could win it all...

I think the Grizz, Clips, Spurs, and Thunder have a real shot. Lakers too...if they can get it together.

I think mid January, we will have a better feel on who are the contenders vs pretenders.
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Re: The Grizzlies could win it all...

It's too early for this now, but so far the Clippers have looked as good as anyone in the games that I have seen. No clue why they lost those two games (which they obviously should have won if they had played well), but their wins have come against some of the elite teams in the NBA and they have looked very much the contender in those games.
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