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**Jamel Irief** · 11-19-2012, 06:48 PM

To enter the league since the artist formerly known as Artest.

Seems like this year his added confidence has translated on both ends of the floor. He knows he owns about 90% of the backup PGs in this league and picks them up right at half court. There he hounds them to turn their back to the basket. His combination of physicality, quick feet and excellent hands allows him to outright strip them a couple times a game, and at the very least he makes them waste a bunch of time off the shot clock.

Against the Spurs just now he was molesting Neal so much that Poppovich pulled Neal and Manu to the side and told Manu he needed to bring the ball up the court.

He's also a monster roaming the passing lanes, and against the Heat I was present in staples when he blocked the shit out of Wade's dunk.

If someone that knows where to get those +/- stats, find out what the Clippers number is when Crawford and Bledsoe play together. They are both good enough to carry any bench unit on their respective sides of the court. Crawford with his one-on-one isos and Bledsoe by disrupting the PG.

No way the Clippers can afford to keep him (no NOFX, they can't). Unless Paul walks of course.

**Prince** · 11-19-2012, 06:51 PM

This is why they didn't want to include him in the Chris Paul trade.

**Knicks4life** · 11-19-2012, 06:51 PM

Iman Shumpert is a better on ball defender.

Mrs. Thang · 11-19-2012, 10:02 PM

Lindsey Hunter with offense. Super fun to watch.

**Jamel Irief** · 11-19-2012, 10:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Prince

This is why they didn't want to include him in the Chris Paul trade.

Actually he wasn't included because the Hornets wanted Eric Gordon instead.

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Lindsey Hunter with offense. Super fun to watch.

I think I've enjoyed watching him more than any other Clipper this year.

**Knicks4life** · 11-19-2012, 10:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Jamel Irief

Actually he wasn't included because the Hornets wanted Eric Gordon instead.

It been a while since it happen but if I remember the CP3 for all correctly Hornets wanted Gordon, Bledsoe, and the TWolves pick, Clips said no, then Dell Demps agreed to that awful Lakers trade that would have made that team unsalable to anyone that would keep the team in NO that Stern vetoed, and then agreed to take Bledsoe out of the Clips deal.

Hope the Clippers just move Bledsoe to SG full time so he can start he is strong an atletic enough to guard most 2s and 3s in the NBA.

**E.H. Munro** · 11-20-2012, 07:06 AM

I like Bledsoe, Bradley's still better though (at least defensively).

**Prince** · 11-20-2012, 10:11 AM

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Originally Posted by Knicks4life

It been a while since it happen but if I remember the CP3 for all correctly Hornets wanted Gordon, Bledsoe, and the TWolves pick, Clips said no, then Dell Demps agreed to that awful Lakers trade that would have made that team unsalable to anyone that would keep the team in NO that Stern vetoed, and then agreed to take Bledsoe out of the Clips deal.

Hope the Clippers just move Bledsoe to SG full time so he can start he is strong an atletic enough to guard most 2s and 3s in the NBA.

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Originally Posted by Jamel Irief

Actually he wasn't included because the Hornets wanted Eric Gordon instead.

I'm right.

**Jamel Irief** · 11-20-2012, 11:43 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Knicks4life

It been a while since it happen but if I remember the CP3 for all correctly Hornets wanted Gordon, Bledsoe, and the TWolves pick, Clips said no, then Dell Demps agreed to that awful Lakers trade that would have made that team unsalable to anyone that would keep the team in NO that Stern vetoed, and then agreed to take Bledsoe out of the Clips deal.

Hope the Clippers just move Bledsoe to SG full time so he can start he is strong an atletic enough to guard most 2s and 3s in the NBA.

This is correct, but when the clips came back after the laker deal fell thru they have them the option of either/or.

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**E.H. Munro** · 11-20-2012, 11:47 AM

In retrospect they should have just taken the guards and ignored the pick.

**Diable** · 11-20-2012, 12:09 PM

The league office wanted the Clippers to give up everything. The reason it took so long is that the Clippers didn't want to give up everything. Bledsoe has really improved over the off season, that much is really clear. I don't think he played a very significant role on the Clippers until the very end of last season and he never seemed to understand exactly what he was doing. Rather incredible how much he and Jordan have improved.

**Jamel Irief** · 11-20-2012, 04:26 PM

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Originally Posted by E.H. Munro

In retrospect they should have just taken the guards and ignored the pick.

Clippers probably would of done that since Bledsoe was the 5th guard behind Paul, Billups, Williams and Foye and again, the clips won't be able to afford Bledsoe. Now they got Austin Rivers with the pick, and no disrespect to him but I think I would take Bledsoe over every guard in this past draft.

**E.H. Munro** · 11-20-2012, 04:32 PM

He was also someone I was hoping would slip to Boston. But Bradley was a nice consolation. Those two guys would seriously be the best defensive backcourt in of the last 20 years if you could team then up.

MemphisX · 11-20-2012, 05:20 PM

Bledsoe is hell on the ball. Makes those pseudo-PGs unplayable. If you come into a game with one of them as your primary backup, your starter will be playing 45+ minutes and they are going to wear his ass down. This is how the Clippers really got to Memphis. They wore down Mike Conley and the Grizz had zero as a backup. Bledsoe wouldn't even let Mayo bring the ball up the court. It was an incredible thing to watch.

nanoBeast · 11-22-2012, 11:31 AM

Jeremy Lin.

Its like having an extra man on defense for the other team.

11-19-2012, 06:48 PM	#1 (permalink)
Jamel Irief KING OF THE INTERWEBZ! Join Date: May 2002 Location: Watching the Lakers Age: 96 Posts: 20,212 Rep Power: 14125348	The best perimeter defender To enter the league since the artist formerly known as Artest. Seems like this year his added confidence has translated on both ends of the floor. He knows he owns about 90% of the backup PGs in this league and picks them up right at half court. There he hounds them to turn their back to the basket. His combination of physicality, quick feet and excellent hands allows him to outright strip them a couple times a game, and at the very least he makes them waste a bunch of time off the shot clock. Against the Spurs just now he was molesting Neal so much that Poppovich pulled Neal and Manu to the side and told Manu he needed to bring the ball up the court. He's also a monster roaming the passing lanes, and against the Heat I was present in staples when he blocked the shit out of Wade's dunk. If someone that knows where to get those +/- stats, find out what the Clippers number is when Crawford and Bledsoe play together. They are both good enough to carry any bench unit on their respective sides of the court. Crawford with his one-on-one isos and Bledsoe by disrupting the PG. No way the Clippers can afford to keep him (no NOFX, they can't). Unless Paul walks of course. __________________

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E.H. Munro Baddest Honky Mofo Alive Join Date: Jun 2004 Posts: 24,281 Rep Power: 21474869	re: The best perimeter defender I like Bledsoe, Bradley's still better though (at least defensively). __________________ If everyone loves you you're doing it wrong. "Opium is the religion of the masses." Fred Reed The Power of 99 Press "He thinks it's going to be fun being governor. It's only fun being governor of New York if you have money to spend, and I spent it all." Nelson Rockefeller on his successor, Hugh Carey.

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E.H. Munro Baddest Honky Mofo Alive Join Date: Jun 2004 Posts: 24,281 Rep Power: 21474869	Re: The best perimeter defender In retrospect they should have just taken the guards and ignored the pick. __________________ If everyone loves you you're doing it wrong. "Opium is the religion of the masses." Fred Reed The Power of 99 Press "He thinks it's going to be fun being governor. It's only fun being governor of New York if you have money to spend, and I spent it all." Nelson Rockefeller on his successor, Hugh Carey.

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Diable Limehouse Blues Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: North Carolina Posts: 22,168 Rep Power: 14650805	Re: The best perimeter defender The league office wanted the Clippers to give up everything. The reason it took so long is that the Clippers didn't want to give up everything. Bledsoe has really improved over the off season, that much is really clear. I don't think he played a very significant role on the Clippers until the very end of last season and he never seemed to understand exactly what he was doing. Rather incredible how much he and Jordan have improved. __________________

11-20-2012, 04:32 PM	#13 (permalink)
E.H. Munro Baddest Honky Mofo Alive Join Date: Jun 2004 Posts: 24,281 Rep Power: 21474869	Re: The best perimeter defender He was also someone I was hoping would slip to Boston. But Bradley was a nice consolation. Those two guys would seriously be the best defensive backcourt in of the last 20 years if you could team then up. __________________ If everyone loves you you're doing it wrong. "Opium is the religion of the masses." Fred Reed The Power of 99 Press "He thinks it's going to be fun being governor. It's only fun being governor of New York if you have money to spend, and I spent it all." Nelson Rockefeller on his successor, Hugh Carey.

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MemphisX Welcome to the Grindhouse! Join Date: Sep 2002 Age: 18 Posts: 14,897 Rep Power: 8161675	Re: The best perimeter defender Bledsoe is hell on the ball. Makes those pseudo-PGs unplayable. If you come into a game with one of them as your primary backup, your starter will be playing 45+ minutes and they are going to wear his ass down. This is how the Clippers really got to Memphis. They wore down Mike Conley and the Grizz had zero as a backup. Bledsoe wouldn't even let Mayo bring the ball up the court. It was an incredible thing to watch. __________________ Los Angeles Clippers HQ KVBL L.A. Clippers Team Page 2016 Western Conference Finalist 2017 Western Conference Finalist 2027 KVBL Finalist 2028 KVBL Champions PG Anibal Levrino \| SG DJ Alexander \| SF Sky Johnson \| PF Henry Torre \| C Frank Weiland(MVP) \| 6th Man Nikolai Koznyshev 2018 FRSL Champion L.A. Clippers

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