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Old 11-28-2012, 03:18 PM   #61 (permalink)
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Re: Is it time to start the Pau Gasol watch back up

Pau is getting put in trade offers for Ryan Anderson and people are saying it would be crazy not to do it?

What the **** is going on around here? Pau is one of the most complete bigs in the game, if not the most complete. Now because of a cold streak hes worse than Ryan Anderson? Ryan Anderson is a joke. I always savor when he plays the Pacers because they just tear him apart. Its a beautiful thing.
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Old 11-28-2012, 05:57 PM   #62 (permalink)
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Re: Is it time to start the Pau Gasol watch back up

I'm only saying he would be a better fit for LA. I'm mostly surprised that a fanbase that complains so much about Pau wouldn't want Anderson over him. I like Gasol. It's just my perception is that Lakers fans would trade him for Gustavo Ayon.
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Re: Is it time to start the Pau Gasol watch back up

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Pau is getting put in trade offers for Ryan Anderson and people are saying it would be crazy not to do it?

What the **** is going on around here? Pau is one of the most complete bigs in the game, if not the most complete. Now because of a cold streak hes worse than Ryan Anderson? Ryan Anderson is a joke. I always savor when he plays the Pacers because they just tear him apart. Its a beautiful thing.
Not worse in terms of the player himself, but a worse option to have for Dantoni's crappy system? Yes.
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Old 11-28-2012, 07:18 PM   #64 (permalink)
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Re: Is it time to start the Pau Gasol watch back up

Exactly. If D'Antoni believes Jamison is a better option to have on the floor than Pau when trying to get back into a game late, they'd be better off with Someone like Anderson instead.
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Re: Is it time to start the Pau Gasol watch back up

You guys are idiots. Sorry, but come on.
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Old 11-29-2012, 01:36 AM   #66 (permalink)
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Re: Is it time to start the Pau Gasol watch back up

I suppose you don't understand. Watch closely how Pau is being used from now on. Perhaps you should go watch footage of the 7-secs Suns, too.
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Old 11-29-2012, 05:58 AM   #67 (permalink)
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I'm not trying to present a realistic argument to acquire him.
ok then this is easy, Anderson is nowhere near equal value for Pau fit or no, so no


are you saying that there are guys that are better fits? well duh, is Anderson? just his shooting and that's it - is he really an athletic up and down the floor guy though? no, can he defend the perimeter? no

Pau could be a high teen and ten center for someone right now, maybe twenty and ten in the right system, that's a hell of a lot of value - are the lakers wasting it? yes. should they just throw it away for a younger version of Troy Murphy? come on now
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Re: Is it time to start the Pau Gasol watch back up

I'm not talking about equal value. Yes, I'm saying he's a better fit for the personnel and system. Does he need to guard the perimeter a whole lot? Does Pau guard it better? Certainly not. I'm not talking about equaling Pau's value. Just simply saying Anderson would present a better fit, based off of what I hear out of Laker land.

Pau's abilities are often negated with Dwight on the floor, who himself isn't, from what I've seen, getting enough opportunity to utilize his advantages. Of course there are all sorts of better fits out there, but you're taking the discussion out of the original parameters. I was just surprised that when Anderson was brought up there was such a hard "no,'" based on basketball reasons.
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**** a better fit if the talent differential is Pau Gasol and Ryan freaking Anderson.
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Old 11-29-2012, 02:09 PM   #70 (permalink)
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Re: Is it time to start the Pau Gasol watch back up

My point is it's negated if Pau isn't being used nearly to his full potential in their optimum lineups.
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Re: Is it time to start the Pau Gasol watch back up

In their optimum lineups? Maybe. But when Dwight goes to the bench we still have an all star capable big to run the offense through if we have Pau, we have a one dimensional shooter that doesn't play defense to go to war if we had Anderson in his place. I would be furious if that deal went down.
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And even if he's not used properly as a scoring option with the rest of the starters, having a third above average playmaker in the lineup is a luxary.
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Re: Is it time to start the Pau Gasol watch back up

I agree. I kind of got lost in my argument, which I was never incredibly invested in in the first place, but I was arguing something very specific, which I think got lost. I just hear so much about how lost Pau looks in this offense. Overall, I think anyone would obviously rather have Pau. In a vacuum, though, only looking at the main lineup, I think a case could be made for Anderson providing something better with his spacing, to go along with little loss in rebounding.

But yeah, you guys were saying you wouldn't want to trade for him. So I accept defeat.
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Robert Horry circa 98 would do the trick nicely
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Re: Is it time to start the Pau Gasol watch back up

If Phil was coaching the Lakers we probably wouldn't even be having this discussion...
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