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Old 11-29-2012, 05:41 PM   #76 (permalink)
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Re: Is it time to start the Pau Gasol watch back up

The thing is that Pau has been playing like this way for the last three years now. With three different coaches, Phil included, in three different systems.
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If Phil was coaching the Lakers we probably wouldn't even be having this discussion...
I hate giving one-word answers, but this. If there's serious talk about shipping Pau out of town so that the Lakers can run a two-headed "monster" of Ryan Anderson and a 36-year-old Antawn Jamison at power forward full time, the problem is with the coaching staff, not Pau.
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The thing is that Pau has been playing like this way for the last three years now. With three different coaches, Phil included, in three different systems.
except he hasnt? at all
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Old 11-29-2012, 06:01 PM   #79 (permalink)
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I hate giving one-word answers, but this. If there's serious talk about shipping Pau out of town so that the Lakers can run a two-headed "monster" of Ryan Anderson and a 36-year-old Antawn Jamison at power forward full time, the problem is with the coaching staff, not Pau.
but there isnt serious talk - there's internet chatter
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but there isnt serious talk - there's internet chatter
Well, I know that. I'm just attempting to make a point.
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Old 11-29-2012, 08:17 PM   #81 (permalink)
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Re: Is it time to start the Pau Gasol watch back up

Exactly. D'Antoni should be able to tinker his system to maximize the talents of such a skilled, large big man. We've yet to see that, though.
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Re: Is it time to start the Pau Gasol watch back up

If the Lakers do trade Gasol the trade that make the most sense to me is Gasol for Gallinari & Wilson Chandler, Nuggets get a go to player in the post and Lakers get young players that have played for D'Antoni and fit his system with Gallo moving to the 4 and Chandler improving the bench.
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Re: Is it time to start the Pau Gasol watch back up

Good work. That makes sense for both sides basketball-wise.
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Re: Is it time to start the Pau Gasol watch back up

I kinda skipped the earlier posts in this discussion and there has been some back and forth pettiness at times in here that I don't feel like reading through every single posts.

Has a Pau for Amare or Pau for Bargnani and whatever been mentioned?

They would both be an extremely good fit for each teams.

Pau might not want to go to Toronto but with Calderon there, maybe it won't be so bad?
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I kinda skipped the earlier posts in this discussion and there has been some back and forth pettiness at times in here that I don't feel like reading through every single posts.

Has a Pau for Amare or Pau for Bargnani and whatever been mentioned?

They would both be an extremely good fit for each teams.

Pau might not want to go to Toronto but with Calderon there, maybe it won't be so bad?
I don't think that the Raptors are a particularly good fit for Gasol. He's declining and they have probably the worst 2/3 rotation in the NBA and their best prospect plays the same position as Gasol. It could work as a three way, though. I do think they're more likely to send him east or to a WC bottom dweller than to a WC contender like Denver. Danny Granger could probably play the 4 for D'Antoni, unfortunately he's out injured. I'm sure the Nets would love Gasol, but again it'd need to be a three way with Lopez headed to a third team for the stretch forward that LA needs.
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Re: Is it time to start the Pau Gasol watch back up

There shouldn't need to be any trade suggestions. This team is good enough to win a title. They have the talent. Dantoni is the only problem right now and until the Lakers realize that they made a huge mistake by signing him, most likely Dantoni will continue to be the only problem. People want to phrase how good he is as an offensive coach and I think it's absolute bullshit, a good offensive coach would find a way to make an offense work with what ever he has on his team. He's a complete ass hat, a moron and the Lakers proved to us all that getting a title is not their current goal after they decided to be a bunch of retards and sign this idiot.

I just pray to god that he never becomes the head coach for the Cavs. Mike Brown was an exception, but god help us all if ****ing Dantoni somehow becomes a Cavs head coach one day...
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Re: Is it time to start the Pau Gasol watch back up

D'antoni is a good coach.
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There shouldn't need to be any trade suggestions. This team is good enough to win a title. They have the talent. Dantoni is the only problem right now and until the Lakers realize that they made a huge mistake by signing him, most likely Dantoni will continue to be the only problem. People want to phrase how good he is as an offensive coach and I think it's absolute bullshit, a good offensive coach would find a way to make an offense work with what ever he has on his team. He's a complete ass hat, a moron and the Lakers proved to us all that getting a title is not their current goal after they decided to be a bunch of retards and sign this idiot.

I just pray to god that he never becomes the head coach for the Cavs. Mike Brown was an exception, but god help us all if ****ing Dantoni somehow becomes a Cavs head coach one day...
Maybe they can just keep changing coaches every few minutes and keep blaming that.
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Re: Is it time to start the Pau Gasol watch back up

And anyone who thinks Ryan Anderson would come in and play better than Pau in the Lakers system is out of their minds. There is 1, and only 1 thing Ryan Anderson is better at, and that's 3's. His mid range isn't better, and close to the basket he isn't in Pau's universe. Pau is a better passer. Pau is a better blocker. Pau is a head and shoulders better defender.


Some of you think if you just put a 3 point shooting 4 who does nothing else well, and I mean absolutely nothing else well, that he'll somehow do better than Pau? Ridiculous.


This forum confuses me with its idiocy at times.
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At this point in time Mirotic is far and away the better player, that's all there is to it. You watch the two of them play and it is patently obvious. Anyone who can't tell that Mirotic is a better player needs to get their eyes checked.
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And anyone who thinks Ryan Anderson would come in and play better than Pau in the Lakers system is out of their minds. There is 1, and only 1 thing Ryan Anderson is better at, and that's 3's. His mid range isn't better, and close to the basket he isn't in Pau's universe. Pau is a better passer. Pau is a better blocker. Pau is a head and shoulders better defender.


Some of you think if you just put a 3 point shooting 4 who does nothing else well, and I mean absolutely nothing else well, that he'll somehow do better than Pau? Ridiculous.


This forum confuses me with its idiocy at times.
So what do you think is the solution to Pau's struggles?

I'm curious what a non-Laker fan thinks.
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