Is it time to start the Pau Gasol watch back up

[Knicks4life]

Originally Posted by Jace

K4L, I do agree guarding 4's could be a major battle for him from here out. I haven't noticed him struggling to get to his spot in the post...is that with Dwight on the floor?

Yeah, but it is not Dwight's fault Gasol is just getting out muscled sometimes and forced to either throw the ball near the rim and hope for a foul or kick it out to the perimeter.

[Jace]

I don't see why it should be such an adjustment for him to play with Dwight. Bynum operated in the same space.

[R-Star]

Originally Posted by Jace

I don't see why it should be such an adjustment for him to play with Dwight. Bynum operated in the same space.

I remember Pau being more of the defensive anchor in the paint over Bynum. I could be remembering wrong though.

[e-monk]

Originally Posted by Knicks4life

Yeah, but it is not Dwight's fault Gasol is just getting out muscled sometimes and forced to either throw the ball near the rim and hope for a foul or kick it out to the perimeter.

not true - he's rarely if ever setting up down low - he spends most offensive possessions at the top of the key and then drifts out or over

[e-monk]

Originally Posted by R-Star

I remember Pau being more of the defensive anchor in the paint over Bynum. I could be remembering wrong though.

well, with Bynum hurt all the time...

but actually when bynum was healthy Pau would have similar issues (although Dwight is much more active than Bynum was obviously) - he's playing out of position, that's a big part of it

[R-Star]

Its true that on almost any other team he is a 5, and a top 3-5 center I'd wager.

[Knicks4life]

Originally Posted by e-monk

not true - he's rarely if ever setting up down low - he spends most offensive possessions at the top of the key and then drifts out or over

He occasionally gets post opportunities and is struggling shooting a career low 23% 3-9 feet shots.

[R-Star]

Originally Posted by Knicks4life

He occasionally gets post opportunities and is struggling shooting a career low 23% 3-9 feet shots.

Which to me screams that he's cold, no? I mean he's hasn't all of the sudden forgot how to shoot because of D'Antoni.

[Knicks4life]

Originally Posted by R-Star

Which to me screams that he's cold, no? I mean he's hasn't all of the sudden forgot how to shoot because of D'Antoni.

I don't know, it could just be poor condition, old age, or fatigue.

[R-Star]

Originally Posted by Knicks4life

I don't know, it could just be poor condition, old age, or fatigue.

Its 4 games man. 4 games.

[e-monk]

Originally Posted by Knicks4life

I don't know, it could just be poor condition, old age, or fatigue.

bad knees, out of synch etc - but meanwhile 'at the rim' he's shooting better than he ever has, significantly

but more telling is what you can see further down the line where you can compare how many more shots he's taking at 16 feet and out in the last two seasons compared to earlier years

he's gone from a guy who shoots 60+% of his attempts inside 15 feet to one who takes half of his attempts at 16' or further

[XxIrvingxX]

Originally Posted by King Sancho Fantastic

Just because Popovich was lucky enough to have Tim Duncan, Manu and Tony Parker plus a bunch if guys who can shoot and defend does not make him a good coach...

You see what I did there??

...no, I didn't. How is that anything like Dantoni's situation? Popovich made a system that worked for the team he currently had. When certain people left, he changed it up in a way that still ended up working for them. Dantoni stuck with the same style assuming it would get them somewhere and guess what? It never did. Dantoni's system turned out to be average at best when he started coaching the Knicks, but with Phoenix, he was lucky to have Nash and Amare on there to make his system look amazing, when in reality it wasn't.

[e-monk]

Originally Posted by XxIrvingxX

...no, I didn't. How is that anything like Dantoni's situation? Popovich made a system that worked for the team he currently had. When certain people left, he changed it up in a way that still ended up working for them. Dantoni stuck with the same style assuming it would get them somewhere and guess what? It never did. Dantoni's system turned out to be average at best when he started coaching the Knicks, but with Phoenix, he was lucky to have Nash and Amare on there to make his system look amazing, when in reality it wasn't.

dude - Pops had the preemiment center of his day - no combination of D'Antoni's Suns team = Timmy

the Knicks were a cluster **** personnel-wise

players make coaches - it's pretty much a fact

[XxIrvingxX]

Originally Posted by e-monk

dude - Pops had the preemiment center of his day - no combination of D'Antoni's Suns team = Timmy

the Knicks were a cluster **** personnel-wise

players make coaches - it's pretty much a fact

And yet here we are with the players mentioned mostly at old age, same coach, and yet the team has still been great despite of it, you're telling me that has nothing to do with Popovich?

[XPeak]

We can all learn from the current Knicks here when we always dangle the "player make coaches argument".