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**Jace** · 12-02-2012, 10:21 PM

Check what? He's certainly outplaying Dwyane right now, but we're not comparing apples to apples.

I, for one, am shocked the Dr. apparently favors Wade over Kobe, two of the biggest banes of his existence.

**Hyperion** · 12-02-2012, 10:31 PM

So you are agreeing with me?

PauloCatarino · 12-03-2012, 07:00 AM

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Originally Posted by R-Star

Ask Diable.

Well, considering he has strong feelings about this subject, i'll wait for his comments on this thread.

Yeah, right.

**Jamel Irief** · 12-03-2012, 08:19 AM

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Originally Posted by PauloCatarino

Well, considering he has strong feelings about this subject, i'll wait for his comments on this thread.

oolalaa · 12-03-2012, 09:43 AM

Is this a serious question????

Marcus13 · 12-03-2012, 10:10 AM

umm...what? Are we talking about for the next five years or something?

Even then I may lean Kobe

**Luke** · 12-03-2012, 12:33 PM

At least everyone has either come to terms with Kobe or refuses to post in threads like this. Good to see.

**E.H. Munro** · 12-03-2012, 01:58 PM

Just to play devil's advocate, when you compare apples to apples, Bryant's aFG% and scoring efficiency numbers with the shitty mid aughts Lakers squads look terribly similar to Harden's aFG% and scoring efficiency with this shitty Rockets squad. If Harden had better people than Jeremy ****ing Lin (which, I'm pretty, is Hokkien for "Smush Parker") to pass the ball to his shooting and scoring efficiency would look better.

EDIT: And just to forestall R-Star who will feel compelled to come in here and wave his penis about you will note that there's not a single mention of Wade in the above post and I am in no way defending Mr. Crispy Fried whose scoring efficiency is worse than Harden's despite having the LeBronimator and RuBosh to distract defenses.

**Jace** · 12-03-2012, 02:34 PM

Wade's having a terrible season. There's no denying that. As he showed against the Nets, he's not done like many of you believe. The guy is coming off a knee surgery. And a lot of his struggles came when Spoelstra was indefensibly playing Wade alone while LeBron and Bosh rested for stretches.

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Originally Posted by Hyperion

So you are agreeing with me?

No. Kobe is playing better right now. Wade played better a couple of seasons ago. What does any of this mean? You can't decide a player has surpassed another player based on 20 games, especially when they're playing in vastly different situations. Plus, we're comparing two greats. On any given night one can be better than the other. This "who is better than whom" game is extremely childish.

**Jamel Irief** · 12-03-2012, 02:41 PM

I genuinely want to hear the opinions of people that thought Harden was a better player last year. Now that they've seen him as a first option (assuming they've watched a Rocket game or two) I wonder if they felt they were wrong or what.

If I get R-star not to post in this thread for 48 hours will those people post?

oolalaa · 12-03-2012, 02:58 PM

Although he was close to the mamba in '09, Dwyane Wade has never, ever, ever been as good as Kobe Bryant, in any season, ever.

And James Harden? The guy has been a full time NBA starter for less than 6 weeks!! Outside of his first 2 games, against pathetic defensive showings, his efficiency has been woeful - 8/24, 5/15, 4/18, 6/17, 3/16. And lets not act like he's scoring 30+ points per game. He's still figuring things out. Kobe is one of the greatest players in NBA history. A proven winner. Comparing him to a 23 year old kid who has started just 23 games in his entire ****ing career is insulting. Kobe, all day, every day, and 24 times on Sunday, and it will likely stay that way until his wheels completely fall off.

**Jace** · 12-03-2012, 03:59 PM

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Originally Posted by oolalaa

Although he was close to the mamba in '09, Dwyane Wade has never, ever, ever been as good as Kobe Bryant, in any season, ever.

That's just wrong, and most knowledgeable basketball minds will back me up on that. But I'm not getting into this for the umpteenth time. We just have to agree to disagree.

XxIrvingxX · 12-03-2012, 04:02 PM

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Originally Posted by doctordrizzay

Id take Harden in a heartbeat.

Care to explain why?

*Goes and grabs popcorn*

**Hyperion** · 12-03-2012, 04:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Jace

Wade's having a terrible season. There's no denying that. As he showed against the Nets, he's not done like many of you believe. The guy is coming off a knee surgery. And a lot of his struggles came when Spoelstra was indefensibly playing Wade alone while LeBron and Bosh rested for stretches.

No. Kobe is playing better right now. Wade played better a couple of seasons ago. What does any of this mean? You can't decide a player has surpassed another player based on 20 games, especially when they're playing in vastly different situations. Plus, we're comparing two greats. On any given night one can be better than the other. This "who is better than whom" game is extremely childish.

Sounds to me like you agree with me, but don't agree with yourself.

doctordrizzay · 12-03-2012, 04:42 PM

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Originally Posted by XxIrvingxX

Care to explain why?

*Goes and grabs popcorn*

Orlando at Lakers. nuff said.

Affalo tore his ass up. wait why am I explaining this...watch him play

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E.H. Munro Baddest Honky Mofo Alive Join Date: Jun 2004 Posts: 24,253 Rep Power: 21474869	Re: Harden or Kobe? Just to play devil's advocate, when you compare apples to apples, Bryant's aFG% and scoring efficiency numbers with the shitty mid aughts Lakers squads look terribly similar to Harden's aFG% and scoring efficiency with this shitty Rockets squad. If Harden had better people than Jeremy **ing Lin (which, I'm pretty, is Hokkien for "Smush Parker") to pass the ball to his shooting and scoring efficiency would look better. EDIT: And just to forestall R-Star who will feel compelled to come in here and wave his penis about you will note that there's not a single mention of Wade in the above post and I am in no way defending Mr. Crispy Fried whose scoring efficiency is worse than Harden's despite having the LeBronimator and RuBosh to distract defenses. __________________ If everyone loves you you're doing it wrong. "Opium is the religion of the masses." Fred Reed The Power of 99 Press** "He thinks it's going to be fun being governor. It's only fun being governor of New York if you have money to spend, and I spent it all." Nelson Rockefeller on his successor, Hugh Carey. Last edited by E.H. Munro; 12-03-2012 at 02:36 PM.

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Jamel Irief KING OF THE INTERWEBZ! Join Date: May 2002 Location: Watching the Lakers Age: 96 Posts: 20,182 Rep Power: 14052088	Re: Harden or Kobe? I genuinely want to hear the opinions of people that thought Harden was a better player last year. Now that they've seen him as a first option (assuming they've watched a Rocket game or two) I wonder if they felt they were wrong or what. If I get R-star not to post in this thread for 48 hours will those people post? __________________

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oolalaa Rookie Join Date: Aug 2012 Posts: 89 Rep Power: 78367	Re: Harden or Kobe? Although he was close to the mamba in '09, Dwyane Wade has never, ever, ever been as good as Kobe Bryant, in any season, ever. And James Harden? The guy has been a full time NBA starter for less than 6 weeks!! Outside of his first 2 games, against pathetic defensive showings, his efficiency has been woeful - 8/24, 5/15, 4/18, 6/17, 3/16. And lets not act like he's scoring 30+ points per game. He's still figuring things out. Kobe is one of the greatest players in NBA history. A proven winner. Comparing him to a 23 year old kid who has started just 23 games in his entire ****ing career is insulting. Kobe, all day, every day, and 24 times on Sunday, and it will likely stay that way until his wheels completely fall off.

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