Rate Jeremy Lin

[doctordrizzay]

Originally Posted by Jace

Can we ban fantasy talk from the non-fantasy forums? I couldn't care less.



Very nice. OP must be launching confetti in his room right now.

Then don't respond? It takes .5 seconds to read...if you couldn't care less...why would you want it banned?

[hobojoe]

What a shocker, James Harden is out and Lin is over 30 points already. All the while Houston is hanging with the 17-4 San Antonio Spurs.

He's not Flip Murray guys. Flip had a stretch where he scored well at the beginning of the season for a roughly .500 team with Rashard Lewis being the first option, not Murray. What he did was a step above what Jeremy Pargo just did for Cleveland the past couple weeks with Irving out. Lin put up much better numbers and won games. He's a more than capable playmaker with the ball in his hands. There's nothing wrong with that. Like I said, he's not ideal in a lot of situations (like playing with James Harden or Carmelo Anthony) but he's not some scrub who shouldn't be in the league. He can play.

[hobojoe]

Originally Posted by Jace

Gotcha, his injection into this thread just seemed a little out of nowhere.



Definitely. I thought about going way higher to make it obvious, but I figured people would recognize it as such regardless.

Don't know about those Dragic comments. Why do you think he'd make PHX better than Dragic?

Dragic would be a better fit with more talent around him. A guy who can use his teammates well, put them in positions to succeed and fit in with the offense. He's not consistently assertive enough to control games. Lin can and will do that, which he would be asked to do in Phoenix. He did it in NY, he's doing it tonight and he could do it in Phoenix. You're not going to win a title with him dominating the ball for 40 minutes a night, but he can at least keep you competitive. He's not garbage like some of you seem to think, he's just only usable in certain situations because he has some very glaring weaknesses.

[michelangelo]

Originally Posted by OneBadLT123

Lin sucks. We let Lowry go for a pick and Dragic walking. What a **** up. Thankfully, Omar Asik has been awesome.

No way Jose

[michelangelo]

Originally Posted by Jace

Maybe it's not Samson. McHale is back and Douglas has played 8 more minutes than Lin. Lin is out with 8 minutes left. Reminder: Toney Douglas is awful.

Nada

[michelangelo]

Originally Posted by GrandKenyon6

He's Flip Murray. I'm glad someone else recognizes it.

Flip was a serviceable backup for most of his career though, and I'm not sure Lin will be. There's a reason this guy has been in and out of the D-League. He can't shoot, he can't defend, his dribble is way too high, he's a poor decision-maker and a turnover waiting to happen, and he has only moderate quickness. The only way for him to be effective at all is if he has the ball in his hands the majority of the time, but he's not good enough to have the ball in his hands.

He will never be as good as Bibby was. That's absurd. Bibby was a borderline level All-Star player. Lin will never approach that.

I wouldn't hesitate to take Ridnour over Lin either. Ridnour is a steady backup point guard who spaces the floor, plays under control, and can fill in as a starter adequately if necessary. Lin doesn't do what I would want from a backup 1, and he's certainly not good enough to be a full-time starter.

Nah

[michelangelo]

Originally Posted by Jace

Co-signed. And would also add that Lin has some work to do to become as crafty a scorer as Flip was.

Nope

[rocketeer]

lin is a good player but he definitely hasn't played well so far this year. him and harden probably do need to do a better job of balancing the work load since lin seems to thrive when he has a chance to run things, but I'm sure that will come with more time and actual coaching. and what the rockets really need is some type of post player on offense who can take a little of the attention away from lin/harden. really don't understand why donatas hasn't gotten a chance to pick up some of the minutes there.

[michelangelo]

Originally Posted by rocketeer

lin is a good player but he definitely hasn't played well so far this year. him and harden probably do need to do a better job of balancing the work load since lin seems to thrive when he has a chance to run things, but I'm sure that will come with more time and actual coaching. and what the rockets really need is some type of post player on offense who can take a little of the attention away from lin/harden. really don't understand why donatas hasn't gotten a chance to pick up some of the minutes there.

It's really on the coaches to do at least a reasonably competent job of allowing both players to contribute. McHale and Sampson are absolutely clueless about how to do that.

Lin should've had 12 assists or more. Asik should have 30+ pts. He received an endless number of gimme's, all night long from Lin.

[Jace]

Would've loved to see what you wrote to me. Thought my quotes were pretty benign. You started a thread saying you didn't like conversations you previously saw on Lin, and pounce on everyone who disagrees with your views that he's super-awesome. See anything off about that?

Odd that you showed back up after he went for 38...

[RollWithEm]

Originally Posted by Jace

Odd that you showed back up after he went for 38...

Glad you said it.

[Dee-Zy]

38pts on over 50%FG, 4-5 from 3pt, 7 ast, 2 stl, 2 blck with only 2 TO against the Spurs is not shabby.

I think a lot of you are writing him off way too quickly.

[RollWithEm]

He got hot. No one game is truly indicative of how good or bad a player is. Remember the night Tony Delk went 20-27 and scored 53 points?

http://www.basketball-reference.com/...101020SAC.html

[Jace]

I think he's good enough to occasionally have games like that when he's dominating the ball, but a superstar he is not.

[kbdullah]

He needs the ball in his hands to be effective. Rockets want Harden to hold the ball b/c he is the better ball-handler. Problem is Harden is also the better off-the-ball player. So maybe it's better to have Lin play point and use Harden off the ball spreading the floor w/ Parsons? Asik down low grabbing boards and Patterson working his mid range.