Rate Jeremy Lin - Basketball Forum : Professional and College Basketball Forums
BasketballForum.com is the premier basketball Forum on the internet. Registered Users do not see the above ads.
User Tag List

Reply
 
LinkBack Thread Tools Display Modes
Old 12-08-2012, 02:05 AM   #1 (permalink)
Player
 

Join Date: Apr 2009
Posts: 531
Mentioned: 1 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Rate Jeremy Lin

I've been reading some of the other boards, and the caliber of discussion is horrendously bad on this and other topics. Sports fans can't be and won't ever be perfectly rational, but I couldn't get one thoughtful opinion anywhere on this issue. Hopefully this will change here.

I'm a big fan; Lin brought me back to the game, when I was on the brink of writing off the nba as a cesspool. Stern's corruption, donaghy's allegations, rape charges, lebron-gate, etc etc, just soured me on the league.

Linsanity was an absolute marvel to behold. His teammates were going crazy, and the garden was a nonstop party every time Lin stepped on the floor.

---

This season, while not quite disastrous for lin, has been a major disappointment so far. As a Lin fan, I am obviously going to give him the benefit of the doubt: knee surgery, a coach who doesn't believe in him (sampson), and an obvious sharp decline in confidence, have all worked against him.

I still think this kid has the handles, the speed and the swagger, in the right situation, to be a very good PG. Obviously, I don't think HOU is the right situation for him.

What's your take.
michelangelo is offline   Reply With Quote
Sponsored Links
Advertisement
 
Old 12-08-2012, 03:07 AM   #2 (permalink)
Dynamic Duo
Photobucket
 
Jace's Avatar
 

Join Date: Sep 2005
Location: Miami/Raleigh
Age: 28
Posts: 20,347
Mentioned: 5 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 106 Post(s)
Re: Rate Jeremy Lin

Perhaps you don't like the discussion on this topic because you inherently believe it should all be positive?

He's a severely overrated player by casual fans who reaped the benefits of his steep uprising by garnering a hefty contract from a team desperate for a player who draws eyeballs. I don't think his ceiling is much higher than Luke Ridnour.
__________________
Jace's soundcloud
Jace is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-08-2012, 03:41 AM   #3 (permalink)
Restore the Roar
Photobucket
 
ChrisWoj's Avatar
 

Join Date: May 2005
Location: Toledo, Ohio
Age: 29
Posts: 6,120
Mentioned: 32 Post(s)
Tagged: 3 Thread(s)
Quoted: 271 Post(s)
Re: Rate Jeremy Lin

Luke Ridnour could never have done what Lin did last year. No way. Lin has some talent, and in the right situation - can leverage it. Houston is not the right situation though, and Lin's talents need that. He is very much a system player - in the right system he's a superstar. Ridnour? No system could make him that.
__________________
DETROIT! Lets Restore the Roar!
We can all to that.
check.the.detroit.tigers.forum

THE DETROIT TIGERS WILL MAKE THE PLAYOFFS
- ChrisWoj [05.30.06] - Midnight_Marauder [05.31.06] - Ghost [05.31.06] - Sixerfanforlife [06.05.06] - Ron Mexico [07.02.06] - Dissonance19 [07.24.06] - bball2223 [08.09.06]
OMG MY SIG IS OBSOLETE!
ChrisWoj is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-08-2012, 08:28 AM   #4 (permalink)
Legend
 
Pacers Fan's Avatar
 

Join Date: Aug 2002
Location: Bloomington, Indiana
Age: 23
Posts: 16,530
Mentioned: 3 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 27 Post(s)
Re: Rate Jeremy Lin

Lin's in the bottom 5 of starting PGs in the NBA. I'd almost rather have Luke Ridnour, who isn't so turnover-prone and can actually hit a shot.
__________________
Indeed.
Pacers Fan is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-08-2012, 08:47 AM   #5 (permalink)
#TeamKobe
Photobucket
 
Basel's Avatar
 

Join Date: Mar 2005
Location: Parts Unknown
Age: 28
Posts: 98,070
Mentioned: 1776 Post(s)
Tagged: 2 Thread(s)
Quoted: 5079 Post(s)
Quote:
Originally Posted by ChrisWoj View Post
Luke Ridnour could never have done what Lin did last year. No way. Lin has some talent, and in the right situation - can leverage it. Houston is not the right situation though, and Lin's talents need that. He is very much a system player - in the right system he's a superstar. Ridnour? No system could make him that.
There is no world in which Jeremy Lin would be a superstar in basketball. That's insulting to the real superstar PG's (CP3, D-Will, Rose, etc.).
__________________
MPT: We few, we happy few, we band of brothers.
Basel is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-08-2012, 09:44 AM   #6 (permalink)
Snapping Necks and Cashing Checks
Photobucket
 
King Sancho Fantastic's Avatar
 

Join Date: Jul 2005
Location: Riverside, California
Age: 30
Posts: 11,073
Mentioned: 11 Post(s)
Tagged: 1 Thread(s)
Quoted: 262 Post(s)
Re: Rate Jeremy Lin

I have him in the prime Mike Bibby range.
__________________




Rumble, young man, rumble...
King Sancho Fantastic is online now   Reply With Quote
Old 12-08-2012, 10:17 AM   #7 (permalink)
Never Argue with a Fool
Photobucket
 
RollWithEm's Avatar
 
Space Invaders Champion! Space Invaders Champion! Tetris Champion! Snake Champion! Simon Champion! Breakout Champion!
Join Date: Jul 2002
Location: New Orleans
Posts: 59,646
Mentioned: 417 Post(s)
Tagged: 3 Thread(s)
Quoted: 2030 Post(s)
Re: Rate Jeremy Lin

He will never be the shooter that a prime Mike Bibby or Luke Ridnour have been. I see his ceiling somewhere in the Jason Williams range.
__________________
But that's just me.

RWE's Random Questions: (Close Friends, Virginity, Home-Schooling, Wiretapping, Cheating, Piracy, Reality TV)
RWE's Movie Rankings: (Coen Brothers, Stanley Kubrick, Top 90 of the 90's)
RWE's Player Analysis: (Nikola Vučević, Damian Lillard, Jonas Valančiūnas, Evan Turner)
RWE's Underground Update - RWE's SciFi Corner
RWE's Smash Central - RWE's Culinary Cul de Sac

2015 FRSL Champion New Orleans Jazz
Lawson - Thabo - Thad - Brow - Big Al - Manu - Jayson
RollWithEm is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-08-2012, 10:44 AM   #8 (permalink)
All-Star
 
e-monk's Avatar
 

Join Date: Sep 2010
Posts: 7,800
Mentioned: 12 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 410 Post(s)
Re: Rate Jeremy Lin

I didnt think he'd repeat what he achieved in New York but man he's not even repeating what he achieved in limited PT at GSW - he has been wretched

couple that with how good Felton has been playing in New York and for once it looks like the NYK front office got something right
e-monk is online now   Reply With Quote
Old 12-08-2012, 10:46 AM   #9 (permalink)
Snapping Necks and Cashing Checks
Photobucket
 
King Sancho Fantastic's Avatar
 

Join Date: Jul 2005
Location: Riverside, California
Age: 30
Posts: 11,073
Mentioned: 11 Post(s)
Tagged: 1 Thread(s)
Quoted: 262 Post(s)
Re: Rate Jeremy Lin

He's a better playmaker than Bibby and Ridnour though from what I've seen. Admittedly I haven't seem too much if him. From the few games ive witnesed, i see him as a solid third or fourth option.
__________________




Rumble, young man, rumble...
King Sancho Fantastic is online now   Reply With Quote
Old 12-08-2012, 10:50 AM   #10 (permalink)
Never Argue with a Fool
Photobucket
 
RollWithEm's Avatar
 
Space Invaders Champion! Space Invaders Champion! Tetris Champion! Snake Champion! Simon Champion! Breakout Champion!
Join Date: Jul 2002
Location: New Orleans
Posts: 59,646
Mentioned: 417 Post(s)
Tagged: 3 Thread(s)
Quoted: 2030 Post(s)
Re: Rate Jeremy Lin

Quote:
Originally Posted by King Sancho Fantastic View Post
He's a better playmaker than Bibby and Ridnour though from what I've seen. Admittedly I haven't seem too much if him. From the few games ive witnesed, i see him as a solid third or fourth option.
He's a better playmaker than Ridnour, but not Bibby. Prime Mike Bibby was a very good creator with the basketball. Lin has good court vision, but he's not Ricky Rubio by a longshot.
__________________
But that's just me.

RWE's Random Questions: (Close Friends, Virginity, Home-Schooling, Wiretapping, Cheating, Piracy, Reality TV)
RWE's Movie Rankings: (Coen Brothers, Stanley Kubrick, Top 90 of the 90's)
RWE's Player Analysis: (Nikola Vučević, Damian Lillard, Jonas Valančiūnas, Evan Turner)
RWE's Underground Update - RWE's SciFi Corner
RWE's Smash Central - RWE's Culinary Cul de Sac

2015 FRSL Champion New Orleans Jazz
Lawson - Thabo - Thad - Brow - Big Al - Manu - Jayson
RollWithEm is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-08-2012, 10:52 AM   #11 (permalink)
Tangible
 
Adam's Avatar
 

Join Date: Jan 2003
Age: 28
Posts: 13,489
Mentioned: 35 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 400 Post(s)
Re: Rate Jeremy Lin

He isn't a spot up shooter. He can't catch and shoot. I think he can be effective with the ball in his hands, that was his role during Linsanity, and not so effective off the ball. When Melo came back he took the ball out of his hands and now Harden has the ball in Houston.
__________________


Quote:
Jeremy Tyler was in Portland for a pre-draft workout on Thursday and was asked about Blazers coach Nate McMillan. “Nate McMillan,” he said. “No … What college is that?”
Adam is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-08-2012, 11:24 AM   #12 (permalink)
Legend
 
Dee-Zy's Avatar
 

Join Date: Jan 2006
Location: mtl
Posts: 11,585
Mentioned: 1 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 61 Post(s)
Re: Rate Jeremy Lin

Lin needs the ball in his hands and needs to be more assertive, even with Harden next to him. Linsanity was very real and no matter how you want to slice the lack of scouting report, Lin has very high potential. I like the Bibby comparison in terms of potential and impact, their game are different but with the right work ethic and improvement, I can see him make an all star or two.

He is not a #1 option and will most likely need to be playing with a dominant big to unleash his full potential. That way, he can have the ball in his hands enough and he is good at making plays so he will find the big enough.
__________________
Social Media Marketing


Champions.
Dee-Zy is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-08-2012, 11:25 AM   #13 (permalink)
Legend
 
Dee-Zy's Avatar
 

Join Date: Jan 2006
Location: mtl
Posts: 11,585
Mentioned: 1 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 61 Post(s)
Re: Rate Jeremy Lin

He needs to improve his defense dramatically though. He has the necessary skills (court vision, IQ, foot speed).

Him and Love could be a great duo.
__________________
Social Media Marketing


Champions.
Dee-Zy is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-08-2012, 11:29 AM   #14 (permalink)
Never Argue with a Fool
Photobucket
 
RollWithEm's Avatar
 
Space Invaders Champion! Space Invaders Champion! Tetris Champion! Snake Champion! Simon Champion! Breakout Champion!
Join Date: Jul 2002
Location: New Orleans
Posts: 59,646
Mentioned: 417 Post(s)
Tagged: 3 Thread(s)
Quoted: 2030 Post(s)
Re: Rate Jeremy Lin

Lin's and Harden's games both suffer greatly because they play the majority of their minutes with Omer Asik as their primary pick-and-roll partner. They both take turns setting him up beautifully only to see him brick lay-ups and fumble the ball out-of-bounds. Deezy makes a good point. It would be nice to see that team pick up a great pick-and-roll/pick-and-pop big to go with their current core. Asik is no more than a defensive stopper/rebounder at this stage of his career. He's got some of the worse hands in the league.
__________________
But that's just me.

RWE's Random Questions: (Close Friends, Virginity, Home-Schooling, Wiretapping, Cheating, Piracy, Reality TV)
RWE's Movie Rankings: (Coen Brothers, Stanley Kubrick, Top 90 of the 90's)
RWE's Player Analysis: (Nikola Vučević, Damian Lillard, Jonas Valančiūnas, Evan Turner)
RWE's Underground Update - RWE's SciFi Corner
RWE's Smash Central - RWE's Culinary Cul de Sac

2015 FRSL Champion New Orleans Jazz
Lawson - Thabo - Thad - Brow - Big Al - Manu - Jayson
RollWithEm is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-08-2012, 11:41 AM   #15 (permalink)
All-Star
 
e-monk's Avatar
 

Join Date: Sep 2010
Posts: 7,800
Mentioned: 12 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 410 Post(s)
Re: Rate Jeremy Lin

the rockets are a team that could really use Pau but I dont see the pieces in place to make something work
e-monk is online now   Reply With Quote
Reply

Tags
asianslovelin


Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 1 (0 members and 1 guests)
 
Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are Off
Pingbacks are Off
Refbacks are On



All times are GMT -7. The time now is 09:44 AM.



User Alert System provided by Advanced User Tagging v3.1.0 (Pro) - vBulletin Mods & Addons Copyright © 2014 DragonByte Technologies Ltd.
Copyright © 2002 — 2013 BasketballBoards.net.

Search Engine Friendly URLs by vBSEO 3.6.1