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Old 12-27-2012, 04:40 PM   #46 (permalink)
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Kris Humphries has 24 million reasons why he'll come to the rescue.
He's guaranteed that $24 mil. But I do hope he comes to the rescue.
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Old 12-27-2012, 04:50 PM   #47 (permalink)
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Sloan resigned.

I believe Deron is still a few killed coaches behind Jason Kidd, who got Avery fired also.
I thought they let Sloan resign out of respect?
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Old 12-27-2012, 05:15 PM   #48 (permalink)
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I thought they let Sloan resign out of respect?
Out of respect?

You don't fire one of the Greatest NBA Coaches Ever because of a player, and then trade the player two weeks later.

And Sloan had just signed an extension to coach the following season, so he gave up 1.3 seasons worth of salary to get away from a player so you can seem to have gotten respect.
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Re: Avery Johnson fired

Sloan and Deron were having regular shouting matches. They got into in the locker room at the half and a couple of nights later Sloan resigned. Not well enough informed to say exactly why, but the suspicion is that either the front office chose Deron over Sloan or Sloan decided he had had enough of it.

Of course Sloan has been in a lot of shouting matches, some with better players than Deron. Either way it is pretty clear that Deron has a lot of responsibility for the manner in which Sloan resigned. If he had been behaving in a more ideal fashion Sloan would not have resigned in the middle of the season.
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Damn I had to really dig in Patches' 'Is Jerry Sloan Fireproof' to find this.

http://sports.yahoo.com/nba/news?slu...retiring021011

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After repeated clashes with star point guard Deron Williams and a belief he had become undermined with ownership, Jerry Sloan resigned as the Utah Jazz coach after 23 seasons, league sources told Yahoo! Sports.

The increasingly contentious relationship between Sloan and Williams boiled over when they clashed at halftime of a loss to the Chicago Bulls on Wednesday night. The showdown between Sloan and Williams became so heated on Wednesday, at least two Jazz players feared that the coach and star could come to blows – even though the confrontation ended before reaching that point.
Sloan, 68, had agreed to a one-year contract extension in the past week but his growing frustration became public after a long meeting with Jazz general manager Kevin O’Connor following the team’s loss to the Bulls in Salt Lake City.
Sloan, the NBA’s longest-tenured coach, and his longtime assistant, Phil Johnson, resigned together on Thursday.
Sloan’s relationship with Williams had grown progressively worse over the course of the season, league sources said, and the coach had tired of dealing with the team’s best player. The frustration escalated on Wednesday night when Sloan and Williams clashed in the locker room at halftime.
“He decided right there in halftime that he was done,” a league source told Yahoo! Sports. “He felt like ownership was listening more to Williams than they were to him anymore. He was done.”
One source said Sloan had become tired of Williams “blaming everything on everyone else.” Still, Williams, who can become a free agent in the summer of 2012, has remained the Jazz’s best and most consistent player after the departure of several key teammates. Williams has always had a reputation for wanting to win badly and being a strong leader.
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Out of respect?

You don't fire one of the Greatest NBA Coaches Ever because of a player, and then trade the player two weeks later.

And Sloan had just signed an extension to coach the following season, so he gave up 1.3 seasons worth of salary to get away from a player so you can seem to have gotten respect.
You don't fire one of the longest tenured coaches... Respect.
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Old 12-27-2012, 07:25 PM   #53 (permalink)
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You don't fire one of the longest tenured coaches... Respect.
Of course you do, if the situation calls for it. But that was not the case in Utah.
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I'm not surprised. The Nets organization deluded itself into that this team was a contender and sold that and the move to Brooklyn to people in the borough.

The Nets have been playing .500 ball while dealing with injuries to most all of their starters and incorporating new key players. Anyone who came into this season thinking "NBA Finals or Bust" for the Nets was fooling themselves. Brooklyn has some high-priced talent and a couple of borderline all-stars, but no one who's proven capable of being a solid No. 2 on a good team.
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He wasn't NY enough. Too southern. This is all an elaborate ploy to make Jay-Z the coach.
Will JEFF Van Gundy ever get another chance to coach? I'd love to see him coach again.
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They should have done this 3 weeks ago. Avery was a horrendous coach.
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Bottom line, is kid is right.

But his kid, however old he is, has to also realize the coach is always the one who gets the ax.
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They should have done this 3 weeks ago. Avery was a horrendous coach.
Was he also a horrible coach when they were 11-4?
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Was he also a horrible coach when they were 11-4?
Yes.
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Was he also a horrible coach when they were 11-4?
Nets fans hate their coaches almost as much as laker fans. Ask them what they thought of "Larry" frank and Byron Scott.


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