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Old 01-09-2013, 09:40 AM   #61 (permalink)
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Re: TWITTER UPDATE: Phoenix, Memphis in Rudy Gay Trade Talks

The Toronto Raptors are amongst the teams interested in trading for Rudy Gay should the Memphis Grizzlies decide to trade him, according to sources.

The Raptors have had preliminary talks with the Grizzlies.

Toronto is said to be offering a package centered around Jose Calderon, Ed Davis and future picks for Gay.

The Grizzlies are exploring trade scenarios for Gay, but have not yet determined if they will absolutely move him before the February deadline.

The Raptors tried to trade for Gay in June, even offering a package including their eighth overall pick that became Terrence Ross.

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Re: TWITTER UPDATE: Phoenix, Memphis in Rudy Gay Trade Talks

Caleron is expiring if I'm not wrong, which right there should be exactly what Memphis wants.

Gay and Derozan makes for a slick scoring tandem.
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Re: TWITTER UPDATE: Phoenix, Memphis in Rudy Gay Trade Talks

Raptors want in on Rudy Gay chase

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Sources told ESPN.com this week that the Raptors -- who tried to make a play for Gay before the 2012 NBA draft -- remain seriously "interested" in the Grizzlies' leading scorer and are trying to assemble trade packages to bring the 26-year-old to Toronto after preliminary talks with Memphis.

Among the trade chips that the Raptors are believed to be dangling, in addition to draft considerations, are veteran point guard Jose Calderon (who has an expiring contract worth $10.6 million) and young big man Ed Davis.
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Re: UPDATE: Toronto and Phoenix Interested In Rudy Gay

Lowry, Derozan, Gay, Bargs, and JoVal? I suppose being Denver East isn't so bad.
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Re: UPDATE: Toronto and Phoenix Interested In Rudy Gay

Much better move for the Raptors than it is for the Suns. I guess this explains ZBO being on the block. Complete rehaul in Memphis.
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I'm no Stephen Hawking, but 17 million is not less than 6 million.

Dudley's contract is only (ONLY) a million less than Beasley's a year. If they are so desperate to get under the luxury tax and unload a player that will only hurt our draft position for this summer, they get our poo poo platter.
I didn't say they don't save money. But teams that are looking to dump quality players due to cap concerns don't normally take back a multi year deal for a guy that is currently not playing on the 4th worst team in the league. That was my point.

Dudley may make roughly the same but he is a well rounded player that doesn't hurt a team, never once has Beasley been described as anything remotely close to that.
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Lowry, Derozan, Gay, Bargs, and JoVal? I suppose being Denver East isn't so bad.
That may be the least efficient scoring team in the NBA. I'm going to laugh my ass off when DD and Gay come to blows over the other shooting too much.
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That may be the least efficient scoring team in the NBA. I'm going to laugh my ass off when DD and Gay come to blows over the other shooting too much.
Yes. Because Derozan is a proven career chucker.....
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Re: UPDATE: Toronto and Phoenix Interested In Rudy Gay

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That may be the least efficient scoring team in the NBA. I'm going to laugh my ass off when DD and Gay come to blows over the other shooting too much.
Yea, you look at some of the rosters that teams are fielding right now and consider that Gay's the only guy who even wants to shoot as much as a franchise guy, and I'm not too worried about that. It's an up-tempo running team that tops out as a bottom-four playoff squad with the right bench. You could do worse. You could do much better, but you could do worse.
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I didn't say they don't save money. But teams that are looking to dump quality players due to cap concerns don't normally take back a multi year deal for a guy that is currently not playing on the 4th worst team in the league. That was my point.

Dudley may make roughly the same but he is a well rounded player that doesn't hurt a team, never once has Beasley been described as anything remotely close to that.
This still doesn't make sense. They HAVE a multiyear deal in Gay. A much larger multiyear deal. The contract extends for the same period and the Suns only have four decent players (and I'm using that word liberally). Why should they trade one of them in a SALARY DUMP!? The understanding is that they will be taking a player that won't get anywhere near the same minutes as Gay.

So why would the Suns do that?
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Re: UPDATE: Toronto and Phoenix Interested In Rudy Gay

I don't know how you're reading my post but I didn't say the Suns SHOULD do the Dudley, they should be trying to make it Beasley. But I was saying it doesn't make sense for the Grizzlies to take Beasley back. If I were in their shoes I would definitely say Dudley or bust. Because they have the Raptors as an insurance policy with Calderons huge expiring contract.
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Re: UPDATE: Toronto and Phoenix Interested In Rudy Gay

I almost wonder if Detroit should get in on this with a package built around Prince, who no longer makes sense for them.
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I almost wonder if Detroit should get in on this with a package built around Prince, who no longer makes sense for them.
Prince, Maggette's expiring, and their lottery pick would probably get the job done. Memphis won't refuse, and Detroit shouldn't. I actually like that idea a lot for both teams.
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Re: UPDATE: Toronto and Phoenix Interested In Rudy Gay

I like Rudy Gay to Toronto a lot. Lowry, Derozan, Ross, Gay and Jonas would be a fun group to build around and watch. Jose Calderon is probably gone at the end of the year anyways and although Ed Davis has really improved, it would still be worth the swap to bring in Rudy Gay.
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I like Rudy Gay to Toronto a lot. Lowry, Derozan, Ross, Gay and Jonas would be a fun group to build around and watch. Jose Calderon is probably gone at the end of the year anyways and although Ed Davis has really improved, it would still be worth the swap to bring in Rudy Gay.
TO seems dead set on dealing Jose (if rumors are to be believed), so this seems like a pretty good deal for them.

Also clearly puts the franchise guy tag on Gay, which hopefully takes pressure off of Bargs and he starts to play a little more consistent.
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