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#222 ·
Re: UPDATE: Toronto and Phoenix Interested In Rudy Gay

The Toronto Raptors continue to pursue a trade with the Memphis Grizzlies for Rudy Gay.

The Raptors held the first overall pick in the 2006 NBA Draft and selected Andrea Bargnani, passing over Rudy Gay, amongst others.

"Bryan Colangelo has loved Gay since his college days," writes Chad Ford. "He was seriously torn between Gay and Bargnani on draft night. I think he feels like if he unites them, the Raptors instantly get better."

Via Chad Ford/ESPN
 
#227 ·
Re: UPDATE: Gay to Raptors pushing closer

Calderon + Davis for Gay at least somewhat negates ditching Speights and Ellington for nothing. Calderon will back up Conley and maybe Bayless will move to the 2 to back up Allen. They can play Davis and Arthur off the bench so Haddadi and Leuer don't have to play. The problem is that their guards are tiny, their backup bigs are small, and they'd be starting Quincy Pondexter with his only backup being Chris Johnson.

I feel like if this is what they're going to get, they may as well keep Gay and make a push this year before they ditch him in the summer. Pondexter's not too bad, but as Bogg mentioned, that team will have trouble scoring the ball. They really should be making a big push for Ross or DeRozan, but instead they might wind up taking one of Kleiza, Pietrus, Fields, or Anderson back to at least have some depth/size on the wing.
 
#237 ·
Re: UPDATE: Gay to Raptors pushing closer

Twitter keeps saying Calderon ends up in Detroit, and Tayshaun Prince is involved.
I said earlier in this thread that Detroit made a ton of sense as a trade partner. If they can use this trade to get Prince's salary off the books, and maybe even Villanueva or Stuckey as well, while picking up a decent point guard it'll be a big win.
 
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#230 ·
Re: Gay to Raptors Agreed to in Principal

Really did not want to see Rudy Gay get out of Memphis just to get buried on a team like the Raptors.
 
#233 ·
Re: Gay to Raptors Agreed to in Principal

Not the case, if Gay can thrive in Toronto we all saw the coverage VC received. Toronto has tons of Media and endorsement apportunities. So if Gay plays well, he will receive as much coverage as he could want.
I'll believe that when I see it.
 
#232 ·
Re: Gay to Raptors Agreed to in Principal

how awful for the Grizz :fail:
Did Allrim take over on them?
 
#236 ·
Re: Gay to Raptors Agreed to in Principal

how awful for the Grizz :fail:
Did Allrim take over on them?
lol This isn't the KVBL.

But it's not that awful at all for the Grizz. They get the 10 mil expiring in Clady (which I think they are flipping to Detroit, so who knows what they get from the Pistons) And they get Ed Davis, who is very underrated on these boards. That kid is going to be at least a very solid starter, if not better. This is the first season he has received any starting minutes and he has shown how good and consistant he is. I hate losing him.
 
#238 ·
Re: Gay to Raptors Agreed to in Principal

Tayshaun Prince could be the replacement here.
 
#240 ·
Re: UPDATE: Gay to Raptors pushing closer

I don't understand Toronto: why do you give up Ed Davis to pick up another big contract in Gay? Davis has been playing real well and you could have build around him once you get out of the Bargnani/Calderon era
 
#241 ·
Re: UPDATE: Gay to Raptors pushing closer

Dunno, but Woj and RealGM are reporting it now.

And I don't know if Ed Davis is good enough to build around. They probably wanted an all-star to replace what they had when they had Bosh.
 
#246 ·
Re: Gay to Raptors Agreed to in Principal

I just can't see how this makes sense for anyone.
Prince is still decent, Memphis is betting that Randolph and Gasol can make up the five points a night you're giving up going from Rudy to Tayshaun, and Ed Davis gives them the big man depth back that they lost when the traded Speights.

Not saying it's going to work, but the logic is there, at least.
 
#248 ·
Re: UPDATE: Gay to Raptors pushing closer

Can't wait to see the Toronto boards after they figure out what they actually got for Christmas. Rudy Gay is not that dude. Ed Davis alone is a nice haul to get of that contract.
 
#251 ·
Re: UPDATE: Gay to Raptors pushing closer

Can't wait to see the Toronto boards after they figure out what they actually got for Christmas. Rudy Gay is not that dude. Ed Davis alone is a nice haul to get of that contract.
We all know that Gay isn't the guy. And the vast majority of us are not happy with this trade (including myself).

But with that said, I am cautiously optomistic that Gay can improve his game in Toronto.
 
#250 ·
Re: Gay to Raptors Agreed to in Principal

Memphis puts the offense back in Conley's hands and out of Gay's. They add Davis, who has been very good, and allows them to move ZBo this summer. They clear cap space and have ducked further under the luxury tax, which makes it easy to re-sign Allen this summer. They add Prince in to an already good defense, where he is a good fit on both sides of the ball, imo. Daye comes on board for next to nothing and has started to develop in the past year.

Detroit finally gets their PG in Calderon, who has one of the best assist rates in the entire league and can slide Knight to SG, where they think he belongs.

No idea what Toronto is doing. Giving up on Davis, who has played very well next to Amir Johnson, in order to build with Gay, Derozan, Bargs and Ross?
 
#253 ·
Re: Gay to Raptors Agreed to in Principal

Memphis puts the offense back in Conley's hands and out of Gay's. They add Davis, who has been very good, and allows them to move ZBo this summer. They clear cap space and have ducked further under the luxury tax, which makes it easy to re-sign Allen this summer. They add Prince in to an already good defense, where he is a good fit on both sides of the ball, imo. Daye comes on board for next to nothing and has started to develop in the past year.

Detroit finally gets their PG in Calderon, who has one of the best assist rates in the entire league and can slide Knight to SG, where they think he belongs.

No idea what Toronto is doing. Giving up on Davis, who has played very well next to Amir Johnson, in order to build with Gay, Derozan, Bargs and Ross?
I seriously hope they aren't finished making moves. Some rumors out there are that DD and Bargs could be the next to go. But that's just some Toronto beat writers probably trying to get some more online hits......

I seriously think BC thinks this move can save his job. I really hope he is fired regardless of how Gay works out in Toronto. Trading away Davis at this point is not smart at all. Trading Davis instead of Bargs is the worst move for the Raptors future.

I see the Raptors as a treadmill team for many years to come. I seriously hope I am wrong.
 
#260 ·
Re: Gay to Raptors Agreed to in Principal

Oh boy! Two "chuckers" on the same team!

Ed Davis also allows us to play ZBo and Gasol fewer minutes down the stretch.
Mr. Silver lining in regards to any Memphis transaction.
 
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