Moving ZBO would give Memphis all kinds of flexibility moving forward with a core of Ed Davis, Gasol, Conley and a re-signed Allen + what they get for ZBO.
I agree. Davis was breaking out thanks to his bump in playing time. I think the Grizz front office sees him as a viable replacement after this season, and allowing them cap space to improve the roster.
I can't believe Tayshaun Prince is almost 33 years old. He was still young the last time we saw him playing competitive basketball. He's lost half his career to playing the dutch boy with the finger in the dike.
Ah. I was actually disappointed that Boston wasn't able to complete the trade for him last year. If they'd had his Bird Rights they might have used their MLE on a forward and I'd feel better about this team.
Oh no, don't get me wrong. I agree with you. But I think the fact that they were able to get someone that I know Joe Dumars has said in the past that he likes - and someone that fans in Detroit will definitely enjoy for his limited time in town - is a bonus. Calderon isn't going to be some major difference maker for this team long term, and probably won't lead them to the playoffs this year (barring something crazy) - but he's still going to be a lot of fun for fans to watch. And as has been said, he may rub off nicely on young Mr Knight.
We lost our Prince but we still have a Knight. Haha.
This deal seems like a lose-lose for Toronto and Memphis.
Say what you want about Rudy Gay, but wing scoring is important and now they don't have that player who can create his own shot. Tayshaun Prince is not an adequate replacement.
As for Toronto...I don't get why you would trade a young big with potential on a rookie deal for a not quite star wing player on a maximum deal. They'll be better in the short term, but that contract will limit their flexibility.
I still don't get it with the Rudy Gay fantasy. There are plenty of players in the NBA who can do what Gay does. If you want to give a guy 16 shots a night and let him shoot 40%/31% with little play making and few FT attempts, the line to fill that vacancy would be long.
The deal is Gay was our 3rd maybe even 4th best player but was taking the most shots and shooting horribly. His salary in millions was higher then his PER. He is not a stellar defender nor does he play particularly hard all the time.
The Grizzlies got a 23 year old big that should be able to step in when ZBo slows down for him. They can also now use their MLE in the summer and resign Tony Allen, none of which would be possible with Gay on the team.
Seriously? In what world do the Pistons turn this trade down? There isn't a single bad thing that you can say about this trade for Detroit. Even if Calderon were completely incapable of taking the floor - this would be a winning deal for Detroit.
Colangelo was bound to make a "gotta save my job" move eventually, and he's going to find a Bargnani trade in the coming month as well. On the plus side, he only gave up an expiring and a journeyman to take a shot on an under-performing pseudo-star. However, it's looking like this team is going to wind up on the treadmill of trying to snag a bottom-four playoff seed and first-round exits even if things break their way.
If nothing else, the performance of the Grizz will be an interesting referendum on Hollinger and some of his analysis. Memphis should have, at minimum, wound up in the 4/5 matchup in the playoffs and made the second round(or come extremely close). Anything less is going to be a failure this season.
''Shocked obviously,'' Prince said after the game. ''I didn't find out, obviously, until I got here. I'm shocked, but it's a business and you never know what's going to happen.''
Why would the Grizzlies need him to be? Gay topped out as "Fourth best offensive player on a darkhorse contender". So really the Grizz don't need much more than that from him.
The post I quoted said that Davis should be able to step in for Randolph when he slows down/is traded. If they're saying that Davis can be a stopgap starter, then sure. Seemed to be saying that Davis is a Randolph replacement, which he isn't.
Is Prince still any good? I honestly haven't watched a Pistons game in years. I mean I saw his numbers for the season, but are they just the byproduct of being on a bad team?
Gay looks like a dropped off a bit this year, but the Grizz could have easily waited until the offseason to find a trade for him.
They have Arthur to replace Speights as the main backup for ZBo and Gasol. Of course given Arthur's injury history I understand why they were looking for another backup.
ZBo's game doesn't rely on athleticism, so him slowing down doesn't matter as much as it does with a lot of other big men.
The Ed Davis love on this board is intense. He put up some ok numbers on a bad team. Is there something I'm missing? Seems like another inconsistent young big man.
Sounds like Memphis may have blew it with Hollins too. Before the trade:
“If they break up the team and get rid of everybody, I’ll coach them until the season’s over,” he said. “Then I’ll make a decision about what I’m going to do.”
After the trade:
“When you have champagne taste, you can't be on a beer budget. It's a small market and I understand the economics of being in a small market."
Chris Mannix @ChrisMannixSI
Update: Rudy Gay will play for Toronto tonight. All players have passed physicals, trade has been finalized.
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