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iDefend33 · 01-21-2013, 12:01 PM

I went with Hakeem, Barkley, and Drexler if they were in their primes then it would be game over, but if thats not the case then I'd say 2002 Kings. Best passing team ever?

Mattsanity · 01-21-2013, 02:40 PM

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Originally Posted by XxIrvingxX

Why should they be in this list? They didn't get screwed over by injuries or anything they just got flat out destroyed by the Pistons.

no offense to e-monk but the 2004 lakers went to the finals, which the other choices didn't achieve.

**ChrisWoj** · 01-21-2013, 04:12 PM

If you're throwing all of these groups into their primes? Barkley, Olajuwon, Drexler. Without a doubt. Look at them as a big-3... Olajuwon as a Center in his prime was as dominant a basketball player, impactful as, Lebron. Barkley is a a big man who'd probably be looked at as a third fiddle like Bosh, but like Bosh would be more important to his team than the perceived second fiddle. Though putting Bosh in the same sentence as Barkley is a major stretch. And Drexler was a far far far better shooting guard than people remember. Had he not played in the era of Jordan? Well, his career as a SG is far superior to Dwyane Wade's at this point - though Wade can still surpass him if he finds a fountain of health.

So you've got someone as dominant as Lebron, despite fewer titles - he definitely was on a daily basis.
Someone far better as a big man than Bosh, who plays far above his size and is an elite athlete.
And a guard that led his teams to 3 finals, winning one at 35 averaging a 20-10 finals.

You take all three guys in their prime? Better than any other duo, trio, or team on that list.

iDefend33 · 01-21-2013, 04:15 PM

If you take that big three in their primes in todays league...no one would stop then. Hakeem would dominate every center,Barkley would be a handful for every team, and Drexler was a beast! Highly underrated player not given enough credit. Awesome defense + offense.

e-monk · 01-21-2013, 08:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Mattsanity

no offense to e-monk but the 2004 lakers went to the finals, which the other choices didn't achieve.

they lost

drexler and hakeem won one (for instance)

like I said this is not really a clear opinion poll but if we are talking 'all in their primes' ShaKobeMailGlove has more potential than any of the squads listed or any pretty much period (including Hakeem-Barkley-Drexler (and ps Hakeem-Barkley-Pippen would have been a better 'in their primes' squad than the one with Drexler who isnt under-rated)

**ChrisWoj** · 01-22-2013, 07:11 AM

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Originally Posted by e-monk

they lost

drexler and hakeem won one (for instance)

like I said this is not really a clear opinion poll but if we are talking 'all in their primes' ShaKobeMailGlove has more potential than any of the squads listed or any pretty much period (including Hakeem-Barkley-Drexler (and ps Hakeem-Barkley-Pippen would have been a better 'in their primes' squad than the one with Drexler who isnt under-rated)

Agree and disagree. I agree that Pip > Drexler makes for a better trio. But Drexler is without a doubt underrated.

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e-monk · 01-22-2013, 07:17 AM

good defender, good offensive player, well rounded but not transcendent, better off as a second banana = drexler

XxIrvingxX · 01-22-2013, 09:34 AM

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Originally Posted by Mattsanity

no offense to e-monk but the 2004 lakers went to the finals, which the other choices didn't achieve.

They got their asses whooped. The only reason they even got to the finals was due to an amazing game winning shot by Fisher. Payton and Malone were barely even a factor in the Lakers getting to the finals.

**Luke** · 01-22-2013, 10:27 AM

Malone was injured and could have made that series more competitive. And while Kobe/Shaq were healthy, their bickering was a detriment similar to an injury.

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e-monk · 01-22-2013, 12:53 PM

dont forget Payton complaining about his touches

l0st1 · 01-22-2013, 02:17 PM

I'm just trying to figure out why Love/Rubio is on this list.

Mattsanity · 01-22-2013, 03:34 PM

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Originally Posted by l0st1

I'm just trying to figure out why Love/Rubio is on this list.

I made this thread late evening when I was sober and tired.

XxIrvingxX · 01-22-2013, 07:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Luke

Malone was injured and could have made that series more competitive. And while Kobe/Shaq were healthy, their bickering was a detriment similar to an injury.

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Okay I'll give you that one.

XxIrvingxX · 01-22-2013, 07:53 PM

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Originally Posted by e-monk

dont forget Payton complaining about his touches

Wasn't he having problems with Phil Jackson's triangle offense?

**Luke** · 01-22-2013, 08:16 PM

He was a horrible fit from the get go.

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View Poll Results: Which group (barring all unfortunate outcomes) would've achieved the most?
Grant Hill & T-Mac	2	11.11%
Garnett & Marbury	3	16.67%
VC & T-Mac	3	16.67%
Lebron & Boozer	1	5.56%
Dirk & Nash	1	5.56%
T-Mac & Yao	3	16.67%
Barkley, Olajuwon, Drexler	2	11.11%
Jermaine O'Neal & Chris Bosh	0	0%
Stackhouse & Hill	0	0%
Roy & Aldridge	0	0%
VC & Hakeem	0	0%
The 2002 Kings	0	0%
Love & Rubio	0	0%
Bryant/Howard/Nash	2	11.11%
Other	1	5.56%
Voters: 18. You may not vote on this poll

01-21-2013, 12:01 PM	#31 (permalink)
iDefend33 Rookie Join Date: Jan 2013 Posts: 24 Rep Power: 0	Re: Which group would've been the best? I went with Hakeem, Barkley, and Drexler if they were in their primes then it would be game over, but if thats not the case then I'd say 2002 Kings. Best passing team ever?

01-21-2013, 04:12 PM	#33 (permalink)
ChrisWoj Restore the Roar Join Date: May 2005 Location: Goshen, Indiana Age: 28 Posts: 4,957 Rep Power: 3089125	Re: Which group would've been the best? If you're throwing all of these groups into their primes? Barkley, Olajuwon, Drexler. Without a doubt. Look at them as a big-3... Olajuwon as a Center in his prime was as dominant a basketball player, impactful as, Lebron. Barkley is a a big man who'd probably be looked at as a third fiddle like Bosh, but like Bosh would be more important to his team than the perceived second fiddle. Though putting Bosh in the same sentence as Barkley is a major stretch. And Drexler was a far far far better shooting guard than people remember. Had he not played in the era of Jordan? Well, his career as a SG is far superior to Dwyane Wade's at this point - though Wade can still surpass him if he finds a fountain of health. So you've got someone as dominant as Lebron, despite fewer titles - he definitely was on a daily basis. Someone far better as a big man than Bosh, who plays far above his size and is an elite athlete. And a guard that led his teams to 3 finals, winning one at 35 averaging a 20-10 finals. You take all three guys in their prime? Better than any other duo, trio, or team on that list. __________________ DETROIT! Lets Restore the Roar! We can all to that. check.the.detroit.tigers.forum THE DETROIT TIGERS WILL MAKE THE PLAYOFFS - ChrisWoj [05.30.06] - Midnight_Marauder [05.31.06] - Ghost [05.31.06] - Sixerfanforlife [06.05.06] - Ron Mexico [07.02.06] - Dissonance19 [07.24.06] - bball2223 [08.09.06] OMG MY SIG IS OBSOLETE!

01-21-2013, 04:15 PM	#34 (permalink)
iDefend33 Rookie Join Date: Jan 2013 Posts: 24 Rep Power: 0	Re: Which group would've been the best? If you take that big three in their primes in todays league...no one would stop then. Hakeem would dominate every center,Barkley would be a handful for every team, and Drexler was a beast! Highly underrated player not given enough credit. Awesome defense + offense.

01-22-2013, 07:17 AM	#37 (permalink)
e-monk All-Star Join Date: Sep 2010 Posts: 5,673 Rep Power: 3274359	Re: Which group would've been the best? good defender, good offensive player, well rounded but not transcendent, better off as a second banana = drexler

01-22-2013, 10:27 AM	#39 (permalink)
Luke Go Dawgs Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Atlanta, GA Posts: 11,875 Rep Power: 4300832	Malone was injured and could have made that series more competitive. And while Kobe/Shaq were healthy, their bickering was a detriment similar to an injury. Sent from my Verticalsports.com Free App __________________ Formerly VanillaPrice

01-22-2013, 12:53 PM	#40 (permalink)
e-monk All-Star Join Date: Sep 2010 Posts: 5,673 Rep Power: 3274359	Re: Which group would've been the best? dont forget Payton complaining about his touches

01-22-2013, 02:17 PM	#41 (permalink)
l0st1 Veteran Join Date: Jul 2010 Posts: 2,119 Rep Power: 953893	Re: Which group would've been the best? I'm just trying to figure out why Love/Rubio is on this list.

01-22-2013, 08:16 PM	#45 (permalink)
Luke Go Dawgs Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Atlanta, GA Posts: 11,875 Rep Power: 4300832	He was a horrible fit from the get go. Sent from Verticalsports.com Free App __________________ Formerly VanillaPrice

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