Conspiracy or Coincidence: Lakers / Blazers?

[JonMatrix]

haha, Portland is losing because they're a shitty road team. they're 8-21 on the road this season. To put that in perspective, Charlotte is 6-21 on the road.

Also, like others have said, Portland's bench is awful. The team really overachieved at home in the first half of the season. They were due to for a slide. Damian Lillard is due to hit the rookie wall as well.

Utah isn't scaring anybody and James Harden is carrying Houston's offense on his back. If he goes into any kind of slump, they're ****ed.

The Lakers SHOULD make the playoffs considering the competition, but they just don't have any chemistry. But even if they do make it, can they beat San Antonio or OKC in a playoff series? Nope.

No conspiracy here, just a bunch of mediocrity out west.

[PauloCatarino]

Originally Posted by Knick Killer

Instead of commenting how stupid you think this thread is, why don't one of you mods close it? Most sites wouldn't let shit like this go and we shouldn't either. It makes this place look bad.

I guess this forum has become so desperate for posts that the Mods turn their eyes on even the most ridiculous threads...

I could swear that if i started a thread like "Whose pennis is bigger? Lebron's or Durant's?" it would go on forever...

[Jamel Irief]

Originally Posted by PauloCatarino

I guess this forum has become so desperate for posts that the Mods turn their eyes on even the most ridiculous threads...

I could swear that if i started a thread like "Whose pennis is bigger? Lebron's or Durant's?" it would go on forever...

Lebron is one of the most genetically gifted humans ever. Have to assume it continues downstairs.


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[PauloCatarino]

Originally Posted by Jamel Irief

Lebron is one of the most genetically gifted humans ever. Have to assume it continues downstairs.


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I don't know, man... I've read people who juice usually develop a case of pennis shrinkage (sp?)
And that fugly girl of his? Man, if he had the tools he would be banging someone way hotter (like, any other girl in the world)!

Durant FTW (no homo)!

[Hyperion]

Just to end this thread. The league won't do anything unless it makes them money. They don't get more money from more viewers in the playoffs this year because their current contract extends through 2015-16. That means that rigging the system for the Lakers would risk the legitimacy of the league for no extra money. Internationally, Houston is much more valuable than LA due to Lin. In short there is no financial benefit to the owners of the NBA in messing with the standings. However, as a long time Suns fan, watching this lotto pick disappear is a swell extra jab in the eye.

[e-monk]

let me help

2 years ago there was a very public conspiracy involving the Lakers (primarily) - we were all witness to this - the owners got together and quite openly conspired to not only divest the Lakers of their previous fiscal advantages but to penalize them should they try to continue their spending practices and to force them to redistribute their income to other teams in weaker markets no matter how poorly run those teams were (ahem, Gilbert)

and then last year very publicly we were all witness to the league at the very open and public request of a handful of owners stepping in and shutting down the chris paul trade

in light of these quite open and public developments you would have to be so mentally challenged to believe that the NBA was working to help the Lakers that the very act of typing would prove impossible for you - therefore I submit that the OP either originated from a room full of 1 million monkeys or is an act of provocation and trolling

I would recommend that the OP read the Vonnegut story Harrison Bergeron to get some insight in to what has happened but I have no hope that he would understand it

[Luke]

This is so dumb but I'm not gonna close it. The op is entitled to whatever ridiculous opinion he has. Just bench Kobe Bryant already!


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[Diable]

Originally Posted by e-monk

let me help

2 years ago there was a very public conspiracy involving the Lakers (primarily) - we were all witness to this - the owners got together and quite openly conspired to not only divest the Lakers of their previous fiscal advantages but to penalize them should they try to continue their spending practices and to force them to redistribute their income to other teams in weaker markets no matter how poorly run those teams were (ahem, Gilbert)

and then last year very publicly we were all witness to the league at the very open and public request of a handful of owners stepping in and shutting down the chris paul trade

in light of these quite open and public developments you would have to be so mentally challenged to believe that the NBA was working to help the Lakers that the very act of typing would prove impossible for you - therefore I submit that the OP either originated from a room full of 1 million monkeys or is an act of provocation and trolling

I would recommend that the OP read the Vonnegut story Harrison Bergeron to get some insight in to what has happened but I have no hope that he would understand it

History has already proven that Stern was right. He was responsible for getting the league out of the business of owning the Hornets. He did that and the Paul trade that he approved was obviously better for the Hornets and the NBA than the one he stopped.

There's just no basis upon which to criticize it beyond the fact that the Lakers were not allowed to acquire one of the best players in the league at a price that would have merely turned the Hornets into a very mediocre team with no future.

[XxIrvingxX]

Is it bad that I think this thread is actually more well thought out in comparison to his previous ones?

[e-monk]

Originally Posted by Diable

History has already proven that Stern was right. He was responsible for getting the league out of the business of owning the Hornets. He did that and the Paul trade that he approved was obviously better for the Hornets and the NBA than the one he stopped.

There's just no basis upon which to criticize it beyond the fact that the Lakers were not allowed to acquire one of the best players in the league at a price that would have merely turned the Hornets into a very mediocre team with no future.

if the league were not involved in running that team as they most definitely should never have been (but stern had to keep his sacred expansion cow alive which is his most damning and lasting legacy) that would never have happened

nonetheless you miss the point, which has nothing whatsoever to do with the relative values of the trade (and the leagues hypocrisy in dumping just like everyone else while paying credence to offering quality product to the fans) and everything to do with the league office acting quite openly and clearly in accordance with opposing owners against the interests of the Lakers (so get with the script)

if in negotiating the cba AND in abrogating the Paul trade the league has openly and publicly thwarted the Lakers (and they have) how can the OP in good faith be posting honest sentiment? he cant - either too stupid to post or trolling - I think that's pretty QED

[BlackNRed]

Of course they are, everytime I watch the Flakeshow they get all the calls.

As much as I hate them. Lakers = Ratings. And the league doesn't want their little failed super team to go to waste.

That said, not much of a team: Kobe, injured dwight, and washed up Nash? Rest of the players are pretty poo poo.

I will not be the least bit surprised if they sneak into the playoffs as the 8th seed.

[l0st1]

That is all.

[Hyperion]

Originally Posted by e-monk

if the league were not involved in running that team as they most definitely should never have been (but stern had to keep his sacred expansion cow alive which is his most damning and lasting legacy) that would never have happened

nonetheless you miss the point, which has nothing whatsoever to do with the relative values of the trade (and the leagues hypocrisy in dumping just like everyone else while paying credence to offering quality product to the fans) and everything to do with the league office acting quite openly and clearly in accordance with opposing owners against the interests of the Lakers (so get with the script)

if in negotiating the cba AND in abrogating the Paul trade the league has openly and publicly thwarted the Lakers (and they have) how can the OP in good faith be posting honest sentiment? he cant - either too stupid to post or trolling - I think that's pretty QED

this conspiracy is actually more ridiculous than the OP's.

[e-monk]

Originally Posted by Hyperion

this conspiracy is actually more ridiculous than the OP's.

what conspiracy are we talking about? did you miss what the CBA does? did you miss the open and public discussion of the Lakers (one of the only 'profitable' teams under the conditions of the last CBA) during those negotiations and how it would impact their practices?

and did you miss Dan Gilbert's email?

Commissioner,

It would be a travesty to allow the Lakers to acquire Chris Paul in the apparent trade being discussed.

This trade should go to a vote of the 29 owners of the Hornets.

Over the next three seasons this deal would save the Lakers approximately $20 million in salaries and approximately $21 million in luxury taxes. That $21 million goes to non-taxpaying teams and to fund revenue sharing.

I cannot remember ever seeing a trade where a team got by far the best player in the trade and saved over $40 million in the process. And it doesn’t appear that they would give up any draft picks, which might allow to later make a trade for Dwight Howard. (They would also get a large trade exception that would help them improve their team and/or eventually trade for Howard.) When the Lakers got Pau Gasol (at the time considered an extremely lopsided trade) they took on tens of millions in additional salary and luxury tax and they gave up a number of prospects (one in Marc Gasol who may become a max-salary player).

I just don’t see how we can allow this trade to happen.

I know the vast majority of owners feel the same way that I do.

When will we just change the name of 25 of the 30 teams to the Washington Generals?

Please advise….

Dan G.

and his biggest beef, and theme repeated? money, money, money

[Hyperion]

So let me get this straight. The Lakers are being picked on by the other 29 teams in the league? Ok, other 25 teams in the league? This is pretty damn ridiculous. The Lakers were trading Pau Gasol a man over 30 in a league where not too many are a cornerstone piece to a rebuilding process over that age for the most dynamic guard in the league. On top of that the Hornets would absorb all of their bad contracts ergo costing the other 29 owners more money?! That trade should never have happened in the first place. The league owned the team, therefore, as owners, they could just say "No." It was a terrible trade worse than any non-leveraged trade in the history of the league. That trade was bad for the league in that it was for a lottery team to become not as much of a lottery team but still a lottery team, made the purchasing of the team less desirable, and hoisted more of a financial burden on the other owners in operating this failed franchise.

As for the revenue sharing, look at Donald Sterling. He fields the worst team in all of sports for decades and makes a huge profit while teams in smaller markets LOSE money by winning. If there is to be a successful league, all profits ought to be shared so that smaller markets can draw fans and grow the league since most of all fans watch the games on tv rather than in person.