[BOB WHITSIT]

MAVS get
Alonzo Mourning




HEAT get
Michael Finley
Nick Van Exel


TRADE ID 748163


Why do the MAVS do this well they do it because they get one of the few good centers in the NBA ZO is the second best center in the game thats why they do it.


Why does Miami do this well they do it because the they get a point guard and they get an all star shotting guard in Finley.

Miami can now trade Eddiw Jones for a big man if they want.

Give me your thoughts on it.

[shroombal]

it would prolly be sumthing like Nick Van Exel, and sum1 lest prominant. Maybe a Shawn Bradley, Wahad, or Avery Johson. ANd why did u create a 2nd thread for this. There is already one for Zo/Dallas.

[robyg1974]

Sorry, the Mavs aren't going to include Michael Finley in a package for Alonzo Mourning, not going to happen.

The Mavs don't have much to offer Miami--Nick Van Exel and some crap (say, Evan Eschmeyer and Tariq Abdul-Wahad). BUT! That doesn't mean that something isn't going to happen. Something surprisingly lop-sided. Why?

BECAUSE Miami IS one of these teams SLIGHTLY INTO luxury tax territory. Trading Mourning's $20.6 mil salary for, say, between $17.5 and $18.0 mil worth of salary SHOULD put the Heat back BELOW the $52 mil luxury tax barrier. WHY is this IMPORTANT, you ask? Go to the "National Basketball Association" page on this site, check out my post about Wally Szczerbiak getting traded for a 2nd round pick, and click on that link that I posted, read that article. THAT'S why!

Nick Van Exel makes $10.0 mil next season, Evan Eschmeyer makes $3.1 mil, Shawn Bradley makes $4.7 mil. Those three salaries combined = $17.8 mil. So WHY would Miami trade Alonzo Mourning for these three dudes? READ THAT ARTICLE that I mentioned, that's why! Don't call me an idiot, READ THE ARTICLE!

Zo for Van Exel, Eschmeyer, and Bradley? IT COULD HAPPEN!

[robyg1974]

Alonzo Mourning, Anthony Carter, and Laphonso Ellis to the Mavs; Nick Van Exel, Shawn Bradley, Evan Eschmeyer, and Tariq Abdul-Wahad to the Heat

Yep, that move trims $4.2 off Miami's payroll for 2002-03, which should get Miami OUT of luxury tax territory. In other words, Miami would save themselves a TON of money by doing this trade. Over $20 MILLION, in fact--probably around $22-$24 million.

AGAIN, if you don't understand why Miami would save so much money by doing this deal, you need to read that article in http://www.realgm.com about the luxury tax. I posted a link to it in the "National Basketball Association" page, go to my "Wally Szczerbiak for a 2nd round pick?" post, the link to the article can be found there. So BEFORE YOU CALL ME AN IDIOT for suggesting this trade, READ THAT ARTICLE.

BY THE WAY, here's what both teams would look like after the deal goes down:

DALLAS MAVERICKS

Starting lineup

PG Steve Nash (36 minutes/game)
SG Michael Finley (36 minutes/game)
SF Dirk Nowitzki (40 minutes/game)
PF Raef LaFrentz (32 minutes/game)
C Alonzo Mourning (32 minutes/game)

Key reserves: Eduardo Najera (20 minutes/game), Wang Zhi Zhi (16 minutes/game), Laphonso Ellis (16 minutes/game), Anthony Carter (12 minutes/game)

End of the bench (no PT): Avery Johnson, Adrian Griffin

[NOTE: Shawn Kemp sure would be a nice fit on that bench; he's been spotted lately shooting hoops in the Dallas area, for what that's worth.]

MIAMI HEAT

Starting lineup

PG Nick Van Exel (40 minutes/game)
SG Eddie Jones (32 minutes/game)
SF Caron Butler (36 minutes/game)
PF Brian Grant (32 minutes/game)
C Shawn Bradley (20 minutes/game)

Key reserves: Eddie House (16 minutes/game), Vladimir Stepania (16 minutes/game), Evan Eschmeyer (16 minutes/game), Tariq Abdul-Wahad (12 minutes/game), Rasual Butler (12 minutes/game), Luke Recker (8 minutes/game)

End of the bench (no PT): ?

The Heat are obviously a pretty bad team there, folks--but are they THAT much worse than they were last year (36-46)? No, not really. And they save themselves a TON of money next year, over $20 MILLION. I'd like to see what Pat Riley can do with Shawn Bradley.

The Mavs, on the other hand, will give the Lakers and Kings a SERIOUS run for their MONEY, if Zo can play anything like his former self.

[Takeit2dahouse00]

The heat wouldnt do that, Zo is too loved in Miami. And Besides last year we did terrible because of no zo, everyone was in pain. Also NVE is a cancer to the clubhouse, he plays for money not for love of the game. The heat are 100 times better with zo than with nve. But if we get finley in the deal, thats a whole different story.

[robyg1974]

Originally posted by <b>Takeit2dahouse00</b>!
The heat wouldnt do that, Zo is too loved in Miami. And Besides last year we did terrible because of no zo, everyone was in pain. Also NVE is a cancer to the clubhouse, he plays for money not for love of the game. The heat are 100 times better with zo than with nve. But if we get finley in the deal, thats a whole different story.

Try actually READING THAT ARTICLE that I have mentioned ABOUT 20 TIMES TODAY if you want to understand why the Heat MIGHT do this deal, why this deal DOES make a LOT of sense.

[shroombal]

Lol... Ur going irate about that article!!! Its all about the article and its luxury tax threshhold, and those escrow dollars.

[robyg1974]

Originally posted by <b>shroombal</b>!
Lol... Ur going irate about that article!!! Its all about the article and its luxury tax threshhold, and those escrow dollars.

I'm just annoyed that some people around here can't spend five or ten minutes reading an article that would clear things up a LOT and would really enable us to have much more interesting/enlightened conversations around here than "Who's better, Kobe or T-Mac?". That article does a great job of explaining all the weird stuff that's been going on over the past month or so in the NBA, don't you think, shroombal? Don't you have a MUCH better idea of what's going on today than you did YESTERDAY? You know?

ANYWAY, Mark Cuban is holding the cards here, peoples! He's liable to pull off a couple of trades that are going to piss a BUNCH of people OFF! The Mavs may be a couple of luxury tax-driven lop-sided deals away from dethroning the Lakers! Stay tuned!

[HEATLUNATIC]

Zo ISNT getting traded,cuz that would take us out of the Duncan sweepstakes next summer,when Zo's $20mill comes off the books!

C - Zo
PF - Duncan
SF - Butler
SG - Jones
PG - Best???

That team would SPANK the Fakers/Kings and Mavs!In other words,the Heat ARENT gonna give up a shot at that team for NVE!

[robyg1974]

Originally posted by <b>HEATLUNATIC</b>!
Zo ISNT getting traded,cuz that would take us out of the Duncan sweepstakes next summer,when Zo's $20mill comes off the books!

C - Zo
PF - Duncan
SF - Butler
SG - Jones
PG - Best???

That team would SPANK the Fakers/Kings and Mavs!In other words,the Heat ARENT gonna give up a shot at that team for NVE!

Tim Duncan is expected to sign a big extension with San Antonio THIS summer. He's not going anywhere, so keep dreaming!

[HEATLUNATIC]

Originally posted by <b>robyg1974</b>!


Tim Duncan is expected to sign a big extension with San Antonio THIS summer. He's not going anywhere, so keep dreaming!

Thats ur BIG comeback?!?!

After all the BS about read my article,read my article,Im NOT an IDIOT!Thats all u got?U DONT know a damn thing about the Heat or how they feel about the lux tax!The Heats owner Mickey Arison is a BILLIONAIRE,and hes made it quite clear in the local papers and on the news,that he will go over the lux tax for ballers that will get Miami a CHAMPIONSHIP!In other words he DOESNT want to go over the lux tax for GARBAGE players,just SUPER-STARS!

As for the Duncan being expected to sign an extension with San Antonio,wheres ur proof?!?!He wasnt gonna resign with them a few years back until The Admiral CONNED him into resigning!Guess what robyg?All of these teams could win a CHAMPIONSHIP with the addition of Duncan,and DOMINATE the East!

Heat
Nets
Magic
Knicks
Bucks
Pacers
76ers
Celtics

Guess what else?The Spurs have NO CHANCE IN HELL at winning another CHAMPIONSHIP in the near future,even with the addition of Duncan,and he KNOWS IT!