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View Poll Results: Which, if any, of these players has had the most disappointing 2016-17 season?
Joakim Noah 1 25.00%
Andre Drummond 1 25.00%
Reggie Jackson 1 25.00%
Paul George 0 0%
Dwight Howard 0 0%
Allen Crabbe 0 0%
D’Angelo Russell 1 25.00%
Nicholas Batum 0 0%
Al Horford 0 0%
They have all roughly met expectations going into this season, so none of these are disappointing. 0 0%
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Old 03-07-2017, 08:16 AM   #1 (permalink)
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10 Most Disappointing Players?

I came across this list this morning, and I disagree with all but one: Top 10 Most Disappointing NBA Players 2017 - Noah, Drummond, Jackson, George, Howard, Crabbe, Russell, Batum, Horford, Randle

This list is almost all wrong.

Horford is having a great season. He is a huge factor in the C's success. If your gonna mention points average without mentioning assists, which was done more than once in this list, then you're just ignoring facts to suit your weak opinion. Horford is having a career year in the assist and free throw categories and also in three pointers made per game. His rebounding is somewhat disappointing, but taken as a whole Horford is just what the Celtics needed.

Allen Crabbe is having a career year in FG and 3pt percentages and free throws made, and his foul rate is way down. The rest of his numbers are nearly identical as last season, the same production that caused the team to give him that fat contract. Just because the team decided to overpay a little to keep a rare elite outside shooter, it doesn't mean he had to suddenly become some kind of super star. He is doing exactly what was expected, plus a little more, which is hardly "disappointing".

Howard is only having a disappointing season by 2010 standards, but hardly by any recent standards. By recent standards he is actually having an up year. He is averaging career highs in FG% and rebounds per minute. His points per minute is higher than last season as well. Overall he is producing just a bit better than some anticipated going into this season.

Batum is having career highs in multiple categories, points per game, rebounds per game, assists per game, and free throw attempts and percentage. His three point percentage is his highest in three seasons. How can you blame the Hornets record on Batum, yet you don't credit Horford for the Celtics winning record? That's just inconsistent.

Russell and Randle both have been playing well this year for the Lakers. Ignoring Randle's assist average, (which doubled in the same amount of minutes per game) and then writing about the old inaccurate Zach Randolph comparisons (as if those comparisons were consensus) on top of it, shows severe lack of knowledge regarding the Lakers and especially Randle. Randle is a guy who handles and passes better than most PF's. His ability to get near the hoop with his ball handling, instead of post moves makes him well suited to today's game. If you look at Russell's and Randle's PER numbers they are very respectable (significantly improved over last season). Russell's productivity is roughly the same as Westbrook's, Harden's, and Curry's productivity when they were at D'Angelo's same age, so how is that disappointing? Just mentioning Jahlil Okafor, as if picking him over D'Angelo would have been a better idea, cost this list-maker a bunch of credibility.

Noah's lack of production may be disappointing for Knicks fans and Phil Jackson, but most people realized it was a risky signing considering Noah's drop-off in both productivity and health. He has always been injury prone, but starting last season it became obvious he just couldn't be counted on to stay healthy. Since his productivity is following an already obvious downward trend and his injury status is no surprise, his production this season is only disappointing to people with unrealistic expectations, like the writer of this list.

Drummond is averaging career highs in points per minute, rebounds per minute, assists per game, and steals per game. His steals rate is ridiculous for a big man. His FG% is up from last season, and his FT% is six percentage points higher than last season. While many were expecting him to take a huge step forward in his career this season, it is pretty clear by looking at his career PER numbers that he has not been trending upward in productivity, staying almost exactly the same every year. Expecting more would be ignoring the trend staring everyone in the face.

Paul George has become slightly more efficient this season. His career high free throw percentage and TS% helps balance out the drop off in other areas. His production and his team's W/L record looks to be about the same as last season, so basically only those with unrealistic expectations would be disappointed in PG13.

That leaves just Reggie Jackson as the only realistically disappointing player in this list. After putting up better than 19.6 PER during his first 106 games as a Piston, Jackson has dropped to just 15.6 PER this season. He is trending downward in his production, and it has affected his team significantly in a negative direction. And THAT is disappointing!

I can easily come up with a much more disappointing list for players who have been healthy enough to play meaningful minutes this season, just quick off the top of my head:

Chandler Parsons

Mario Hezonja

Derrick Favors

Michael Kidd-Gilchrist

Nikola Mirotic

Rajon Rondo

Jahlil Okafor

Reggie Jackson

Brandon Ingram

Dragan Bender

Most of these guys appear to be trending back upward, but have a ways to go before they could be considered not disappointing this season.
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Re: 10 Most Disappointing Players?

For me it's definitely Drummond. His defense has been truly atrocious. I definitely expected him to evolve into one of the top 10 rim protectors in the league and that just does not seem to be his career trajectory anymore. He has no defensive instincts whatsoever.
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For me it's definitely Drummond. His defense has been truly atrocious. I definitely expected him to evolve into one of the top 10 rim protectors in the league and that just does not seem to be his career trajectory anymore. He has no defensive instincts whatsoever.
He has been elite among big men in picking up steals throughout his career, with a career high this season. But his shot blocking is pathetic, a career low this season. His all around team defense is pretty weak, as he frequently finds himself in the wrong position in the Piston's schemes. His defensive rebounding is phenomenal, but he may be too focused on rebound stats rather than team defense. Maybe a change of scenery/scheme could help.
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Re: 10 Most Disappointing Players?

check out what Ingram has been doing over the last 20 games or so... not disappointing
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Old 03-27-2017, 06:51 PM   #6 (permalink)
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I don't believe Reggie Jackson is one of the 10 most disappointing players,he's quarterbacking Detroit very well.He's the no#1 guard of the Pistons.
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