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Old 04-14-2004, 10:35 AM   #16 (permalink)
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He'd be Ben Wallace. 7 ppg / 15 rbpg.

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Old 04-14-2004, 10:37 AM   #17 (permalink)
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He'd be Ben Wallace. 7 ppg / 15 rbpg.

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I could see him feasibly putting up 35-38 ppg and 18 rpg in his prime, but let's not forget the defensive side of the ball. He could probably average around 5 blocks in the game today as well, and maybe around 4 apg. I think he'd dwarf Shaq, and the rest of the league, if he played today.
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the smiley means you're kidding, right?
Yup. But I thought I could boil the blood of a few people.

It's a fairly futile exercise to figure out what a player would do in an entirely different era. Not only is the game different, the rules different, the players different, but the outside elements, like training and nutrition, are different.

How would all those things come together for an overall effect?

I think he'd dominate the way O'Neal has dominated, but not beyond that. The league is much better equipped to defend big men, the rules don't favour big men as much as they did in the past and the game is simply tougher. No one, not even Wilt Chamberlain, is going to average 48+ minutes per game today.
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KG nowadays, could have beaten Wilt in his prime, 1 on 1...
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Old 04-14-2004, 12:01 PM   #21 (permalink)
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KG nowadays, could have beaten Wilt in his prime, 1 on 1...
he wouldn't have much of a chance of defending wilt. wilt was a beast. and wilt was athletic enough to stay with garnett.
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This post is COMPLETELY disrespectful to one of the absolute best players in the history of the NBA, he was Michael Jordan in his era, are people gonna say this about him in 25 years. This is pathetic. Wilt is the REASON NBA rules were changed, he was so dominant that they had to make it harder for him.
He completely RULED Bill Russell and Russel was also one of the best players in the history of the NBA. Russell may have more championships and he was the "other" Center in the league during Wilt's time but Wilt put up his BEST numbers against Russell. You guys need to go back and watch this guy play A LOT because you don't know what you are talking about. He dominated then and he'd dominate now. You also forget that the NBA had a lot less teams back then so it was a lot less watered down and it didn't have a bunch of 18 year old stick figure kids in the league back then either.
I'm embarrassed that people on this board could even THINK that Wilt would be only average my GOD that is ludicrous and beyond uneducated
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This post is COMPLETELY disrespectful to one of the absolute best players in the history of the NBA, he was Michael Jordan in his era, are people gonna say this about him in 25 years. This is pathetic. Wilt is the REASON NBA rules were changed, he was so dominant that they had to make it harder for him.
He completely RULED Bill Russell and Russel was also one of the best players in the history of the NBA. Russell may have more championships and he was the "other" Center in the league during Wilt's time but Wilt put up his BEST numbers against Russell. You guys need to go back and watch this guy play A LOT because you don't know what you are talking about. He dominated then and he'd dominate now. You also forget that the NBA had a lot less teams back then so it was a lot less watered down and it didn't have a bunch of 18 year old stick figure kids in the league back then either.
I'm embarrassed that people on this board could even THINK that Wilt would be only average my GOD that is ludicrous and beyond uneducated
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I'm only 12 and I've never seen Wilt play, but I heard on ESPN that Wilt Chemberlon played against a bunch of short fat white guys. Well in the NBA today there aren't any short fat white guys, so I rekon Wilt wouldn't even be good enough to make an NBA roster.
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Wilt would have been a monster in the NBA right now. I could see him doing exactly what he did back then, but obvioulsy not to the extent. He would lead the league in scoring and rebounding every year, and probably blocks too. The guy was a legit 7'0 and he was an olympic calibur high jumper, and if I'm not mistaken he was a pretty good sprinter also. In today's league he would probably have 10-15 pounds more of muscle with all that other stuff, he would be unstoppable. He was also a pretty good passer to, he could pretty much do it all. I could see his #s looking like this 33/15/5/4.
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wtf? man, dude, wilt could dunk from the free-throw line. dats pretty scary for ANY person to do. even scarier was the fact that he was a SEVEN-FOOT CENTER who could dunk from the free-throw line.

wilt could get 20 pts based on atheletism alone (example: amare stoudamire).
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is it my twisted imagination, or did someone just say that wilt dominated bill russell?

it's the other way around, buddy.

bill russell was 6'10 220, and he gave wilt trouble. imagine what today's athletic freaks would do. 6'10 220 is SF size, nowadays. hell, even SG (see: t-mac). wilt wouldn't be nearly as effective as he was.

if wilt played nowadays, he'd still be a HoF'er most likely. however, his stats would effectively be cut by 50%. can't really picture him doing better than 28 and 13, if that.
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is it my twisted imagination, or did someone just say that wilt dominated bill russell?

it's the other way around, buddy.

not only that, but bill russell was 6'10 220, and he gave wilt trouble. imagine what today's athletic freaks would do. 6'10 220 is SF size, nowadays. hell, even SG (see: t-mac). wilt wouldn't be nearly as effective as he was.

if wilt played nowadays, he'd still be a HoF'er most likely. however, his stats would effectively be cut by 50%. can't really picture him doing better than 28 and 13, if that.
Actually Wilt always dominated Bill Russell, Russell just came out with the Ws. Wilt was by far the better player, Russell just had the much better supporting cast.
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Actually Wilt always dominated Bill Russell, Russell just came out with the Ws. Wilt was by far the better player, Russell just had the much better supporting cast.
you can't say wilt dominated russell when russell's team won damn near every time.

you figure wilt would've carried his team to a win more often. 11 championships to 2? come on.

and russell weighed 220, for christ sakes.
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wtf? man, dude, wilt could dunk from the free-throw line. dats pretty scary for ANY person to do. even scarier was the fact that he was a SEVEN-FOOT CENTER who could dunk from the free-throw line.
Jonathan Bender can dunk from the free throw line, but I'm not willing to consider him as one of the best of all times.

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The guy was a legit 7'0 and he was an olympic calibur high jumper, and if I'm not mistaken he was a pretty good sprinter also.
Wilt said of himself he was an olympic calibur high jumper. He also said he's the world's best volleyball player. Dude talked a lot of crap back then.

I've seen Wilt play (not when he played, but on tapes), and I don't think he's a physical freak as much as Shaquille O'Neal is. Shaq is quicker and heavier, just more powerful. That's why I think Wilt wouldn't average more than 30/15 per game if his prime were today.
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